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 Posted 8/20/2013 1:18:48 PM
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Many supplements are used for hormone balance and menopausal symptoms, but I'm very confused about what helps what. I found one good link:
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Hormone balance is a little vague. It could mean the body will better maintain balance or it could push me in one direction that may or may not be the one I need. Or it could smooth out hormone shifts so they're not so extreme and distressing. Some products are probably best for women not taking HRT. Others best for those who are? Some products better for younger women with cramps or PMS? Eeek!

It would be nice to have a chart with hormone-related issues and suggested supplements. Here's some info I found (most from link above):
Nettle: convert serum testosterone to free testosterone (the usable kind)
Licorice: supports estrogen synthesis
Black Cohosh: mimic estriol (who needs this?)
Dong Quai: progesterone synthesis
Vitex: ?
Maca: libido
Cruciferous vegetables: cancer prevention?
Cordyceps?

Can anyone fill out some of the missing details? Or share experiences with these herbs and the results?

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Elaine
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 Posted 8/20/2013 1:30:33 PM
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Have you had your blood tested for hormone levels?

We are all biochemically unique and with hormone replacement this is particularly evident.  What helps some men or women does not help others.  Some people find that certain herbs make them feel better during menopause; others need a prescription for bioidentical hormone replacement.  For example, two sisters known to me had similar menopausal symptoms.  One got by with evening primrose oil, the other needed a prescription for estradiol. 

It might be added that prescription hormones could worsen some conditions such as estrogen or progesterone receptor positive cancers, and it is not entirely known what effects certain herbs or foods would have.


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Yes, I've been hormone tested, but having test results does not make products less confusing. I bought cruciferous vegetable extract thinking it would help reduce my SHBG, but I can't figure out if either of us needs it. Is it mostly to prevent estrogen-related cancers? Helpful for hot flashes? Good for reducing SHBG? Prevent mood swings? Liver detox?

I understand that everyone is different and we have to try things to see if they help us as unique individuals. It would be nice to have some guidelines other than "hormonal balance." Other supplements seem better explained, but anything hormonal seems to be in a mystery zone of wonder and possibility.

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Elaine
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Few things which you need to keep in mind before going for hormonal therapy are, Firstly you need to check if there is any vaginal dryness due to which you not getting proper sleep, Are you healthy enough to undergo hormonal therapy and lastly you need to be very sure on your mind set about hormonal therapy sideeffects if there are any as I am not too sure on that point though.
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Yes, I've been hormone tested, but having test results does not make products less confusing. I bought cruciferous vegetable extract thinking it would help reduce my SHBG, but I can't figure out if either of us needs it. Is it mostly to prevent estrogen-related cancers? Helpful for hot flashes? Good for reducing SHBG? Prevent mood swings? Liver detox?

I understand that everyone is different and we have to try things to see if they help us as unique individuals. It would be nice to have some guidelines other than "hormonal balance." Other supplements seem better explained, but anything hormonal seems to be in a mystery zone of wonder and possibility.

Thanks,
Elaine


There's only a few core supplements.  Iodine (take with selenium!) and DIM will modulate the estradiol (bad) to estriol (good) ratio by inhibiting the aromatase enzyme.  For SHBG, nettle root extract will reduce its impact on testosterone.  Methyl-donors will encourage 2-methoxyestradiol (good).  DHT is dealt with by beta-sistosterol which is in saw palemetto and pygeum.  DHEA, is of course, the mother of testosterone and estrogen.  I prefer to avoid multi-ingredient formulas and focus on singulars so it is clear what is doing what.

My impression is post-menopausal symptoms are from excess estradiol.  PMS is "estrogen dominance" which is a progesterone to estrogen defenciency and which can be modulated by taking the female herbs, i.e. red clover, black cohosh, wild yam, etc.  Even though its claimed the body cannot convert the hormones in these plants to bioidentical, the herbs obviously work, probably as phytoestrogens.
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Not all women with PMS have low progesterone. There appear to be several different types of PMS.  Because progesterone is the hormone that naturally dominates during the latter half of the cycle, some women find that their reaction to this hormone is the cause of their PMS, and supplementing with more of it makes it worse.   Additionally, many women find bioidentical estradiol to be a lifesaver during perimenopause and postmenopausal years. 

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DDye:
Great point about PMS. We get into this one-fix mindset. Condition A-->Remedy A. It's so frustrating if remedy A doesn't work. Everyone keeps telling you to try it or they can't recommend anything else.

To add to the confusion, remedy A might be necessary, but not sufficient. Vitamin D is a great example. Everyone should blood test and bring up your levels. It can help many conditions, though it may not always be enough by itself. Say you try it for depression or heart disease, and it doesn't seem to help, it's easy for people to stop D and move on. But D is a vital base in our bodies. If it's low, all the other stuff may not work.

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Thanks for much helpful info. You said: "Iodine (take with selenium!)"What's that about?

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