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 Posted 7/1/2011 7:23:46 PM
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Thanks Albedo,

Since Mr. Faloon is suggesting using Cimetidine, what does the medical board of LEF feel about the side effects of Cimetidine that I posted above?

Additionally, what about the article regarding melatonin I posted in the old forum, that talks about the University of California, Berkeley study, that discovered melatonin switches on a recently discovered hormone called gonadotrophin inhibitory hormone.?

Cimetidine increasing estrogen and melatonin inhibiting luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone can't be good.

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 Posted 7/6/2011 5:03:36 AM
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According to Dr Smith:  We consider cimetidine to be safe and effective to combat viral replication. Remember, the flu has a high mortality rate in older Americans and cimetidine's benefit greatly outweighs the risk...when used for a short duration. 
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I guess if you're younger and can fight it off without drugs that would be best.  The key words here are:  "Older" and "For a short duration"

Thank you for the answer. 


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 Posted 7/20/2011 12:34:16 AM
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A lot of research is done on how to repair road traffic accident injuries. However the problem is also approached from the opposite angle. That is by discouraging them by making dangerous driving a behaviour that can be punished. Most importantly, it is also socially unacceptable. It is this latter situation that is likely to reduce the accident rate more than anything else.

Therefore if there was a similar level of public disgust for people who go out and mingle with others when they have a cold or flu, the incidence of these diseases would fall.

There is a counter current of disapproval with those who "skive" or take time off work. "Oh, you got a little sniffle so you let the side down and stayed at home." Looking at the overall system of a place of work where this happens, the contaminator brings a disease to the workplace and then everyone is then working below optimum because they also suffer from the same disease. Also, consider the scenario of someone who drives dangerously in order to get to work on time not to"let the side down". He runs over a pedestrian’s foot as he pulls away from traffic lights without due regard for pedestrians. Not a serious injury, but maybe as disabling as contaminating them with a cold or flu virus. Is running over someone’s foot acceptable? I think not.

When life on Earth consisted entirely of viruses and bacteria, evolution occurred solely by contamination of one with the other. On this basis, when a virus contaminates an animal and the animal spreads the virus to another animal, some of the animal’s DNA may go with it. But this is insufficient to be measurable with present technology. However this is merely an echo of the way evolution worked before sexual reproduction started.

It could be argued that virus+animal has "babies" of other viruses that spread to the next animal. Colds and flu achieve this by making the victim excrete mucus droplets into the air through the breathing system. Norovirus does it by inducing projectile vomiting which project an aerosol so potent that only five viruses inhaled by a victim cause that victim to have more norovirus "babies" by the same process.

It took time to make driving with excess alcohol socially unacceptable. Back in the 1930s, driving under the influence of alcohol was almost seen as an excuse for any resulting accident. It took time for opinion to align with the law.

Maybe technology will find a way of stamping out colds and flu, as it did with smallpox. But the technical difficulties are still formidable. Social change as to what is acceptable behaviour could bring a solution before a really effective vaccine can be found. Articles, like this, on the Internet may spread such a change.

Mobile telephone applications may be another, for example

http://files.secureid.org/dss/virusradar4.pdf


What is clearly needed, is "thinking outside the box".



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 Posted 10/21/2011 12:33:20 AM
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Hi Tom, you might have posted this already hence my apologizes...

(1) where do you take your bee propolis and
(2) have you a take on the two products offered by LEF (here and here).

Trying to prepare the coming season. Any update on your immune boosting regime?

PS I will travel to Portland/OR-Seattle/WA in November and can buy off-the-shelf over there, maybe?


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I've never tried those particular products, but have taken High Desert bee pollen before.

I buy the fresh, raw: USA, Spanish, and Brazilian Bee Pollen & raw Royal Jelly > HERE & HERE

I buy Brazilian Green Propolis which contains Artepillin C (3,5-diprenyl-4hydroxycinamic acid) > HERE

oh, i noticed their prices have increased since I've been promoting it!  I should stop talking about it so much! Wink (J/K)

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Tom. (10/21/2011)
I've never tried those particular products, but have taken High Desert bee pollen before.

I buy the fresh, raw: USA, Spanish, and Brazilian Bee Pollen & raw Royal Jelly > HERE & HERE

I buy Brazilian Green Propolis which contains Artepillin C (3,5-diprenyl-4hydroxycinamic acid) > HERE



Thank you and I assume you cannot purchase those items in a shop but only on-line right? I normally visit places as Whole Foods Markets and thought i can find something there.
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Andrographis is antiviral, we always have it on hand for colds.  From Sloan Kettering

"Andrographis paniculata is a bitter tasting annual plant prevalent in much of Asia. It is often used in combination with other herbs in traditional medicine to treat infectious diseases and associated fevers. It is also used in folk medicine to treat snakebites. This herb and its fractionated extracts have been studied for their antioxidant, antiviral, antibacterial, antiinflammatory, antihypertensive, antineoplastic, anti-ulcerogenic, and analgesic properties with some positive results."
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Hi Tom. You  and others might want to add what our family uses. Silver water. It's about $30 for six to eight ounces, but our family believes in it so much that my mother purchased her own machine and actually makes it weekly. That's how much we believe in it. We believe in it because it works for a host of illnesses. Let me know if you try it! :-D
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An example of how spreading disease seems socially acceptable is this web page

http://www.investorcalendar.com/includes/PRNPressRelease.asp?ID=2061387

In it the idea is that this product enables people to "keep going" when they have a respiratory infection. It keeps the company's profits going too. At least alcohol advertisements now encourage people to "drink responsibly" and use public transport to go to the pub. The makers of this stuff seem to be encouraging people to spread their infections.


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