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 Posted 2/28/2013 3:37:08 PM
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I was wondering if anyone here had any personal experience with taking coenzyme Q10 along with coreg (carvedilol)?  I have an 88 year old father who has been diagnosed with native vessel coronary artery disease, ischemic cardiomyopathy, and chronic systolic heart failure. (as well as having chronic stage 3 kidney disease that is stable.)  He is currently approximately stage 3 New York Heart Association classification heart failure.  Other than that, he is in good health and at a normal weight.  He is under the care of his cardiologist and currently taking coreg (carvedilol) 12.5mg twice daily, lasix (furosemide) 0mg-40mg once daily AS NEEDED only, as well as taking aspirin 81mg once daily, vitamin methyl B12 1000mcg once daily, vitamin D3 2000iu once daily.  He ranges from none to mild to moderate edema in his ankles and no congestion in his lungs whatsoever.  He is active around the house, but does experience breathlessness upon any significant physical activity.  He does not experience this laying on his back though.  We talked to the cardiologist about adding coenzyme Q10 and while he saw no harm in trying it, he insisted that it would not help in the slightest because he claimed all the studies showed it does not help.  I took it upon myself to have my dad's plasma coenzyme Q10 level tested, and it came back at only 0.18 ug/mL, which i understand is EXTREMELY low.  As I said, the cardiologist is aware that my dad is going to add coenzyme Q10, so I am basically just asking if anyone here has any real world experience in combining coenzyme Q10 with an alpha/beta blocker such as coreg?  Will the beta blocker totally nullify any potential beneficial effects of coQ10?  Any and all experience is greatly appreciated.

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I have been taking CoQ10 for many years.  In 2008 I had a triple bypass and the cardiologist added Coreg at that time.  When you wake up from open heart surgery you have two wires hanging out of your chest.  They are attached to your heart and are there in case they need to stilulate the heart muscle (I think).  The last thing they do before you leave the hospital is yank the two wires out of your chest.  When they did that my heart went into a-fib.  It eventually calmed down, but they then sent me home with 6.25 mg Coreg once or twice/day (I don't remember for certain).  After that I was just tired all the time.  Coreg does that to you.  I never had a-fibs again, and eventually convinced them to get me off the stuff.  I feel fine now.  They do a blood test on me every 4 months with a 5-page set of results, so they watch just about everything imaginable.  We did not see eny detrimental affects of the combination of Coreg and CoQ10.  My completely non-medical (ie, I am an engineer; Not a doctor) opinion is that teh Coreg will not deplete the CoQ10.  I say this because as I understand it, if there is a deficiency in CoQ10, the heart gets first priority access to it, and other muscles just suffer from a lack of CoQ10.  If that is the case, your dad may actually feel stronger as his muscles get what they need.  Looks to me like you have nothing to lose but the cost of the CoQ10.  The dosctor is OK with the idea and you can't get much lower than 0.18 ug/mL.
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I am curious...did you ever use the life extension brand coenzyme Q10 that has shilajit in it when you were on coreg?  I was concerned about how shilajit and coreg (carvedilol) interact as well....

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No, I did not.  I have used several differnt brands, but not that one.  I take a capsule with each meal.  I think I took Coreg twice a day.
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I took coreg and 300mg of LEF Super Ubiquinol for about 1 year.  My cardiologist just took me off the Coreg about a month ago.

I did not experience any side effects after I added the CoQ10 (I added it because my cardiologist also put me on Lipitor at the same time he prescribed Coreg). 

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This was really helpful, my husband just had a heart attack which was treated with a stent. He is doing fine. But is on several medications, including Coreg, so I have been hesitant to restart the supplements he was taking prior to the MI. Reading through the literature about the medications many of them were contraindicated. But CoQ10 was not so I was thinking that he should start taking that, especially as he is on Lipitor also. He was taking 100mg previously. Dan, why did you decide on 300mg?

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Mary,

I can't say there was anything scientific about the dosage selection.  I read a few articles that suggested around 300 mg is indicated for a person in their 50's (like me).  I thought taking Lipitor would probably suggest an even higher dosage.  But, I wanted to be a little cautious.  Also, I only wanted to take one pill per meal.  The pills are 100mg each.

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