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 Posted 10/29/2012 6:46:45 PM
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Any ideas other than the standard avoid spicy foods, alcohol & coffee?

My doctor says the medical profession doesn't know what causes it. They sometimes prescribe antibiotics.
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 Posted 10/30/2012 4:13:43 AM
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Have heard that therapeutic doses of niacin can aggravate it.

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 Posted 10/30/2012 4:47:57 AM
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I've had a niacin flush before but that was temporary. I'll check to see what level of niacin is in the LEF mix I use. It may be the extra version.

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 Posted 10/30/2012 5:56:45 PM
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You might look into iron reduction (through blood donation)...  

There are different kinds of rosacea, but ferritin (stored iron) is known to be a major factor in at lease one form.  

Look Here: http://www.medwire-news.md/66/79391/Dermatology/Increased_ferritin_expression_in_rosacea.html

If you think about it, who has the fairest skin of all?  Young borderline anemic females.  Young (adult) females are naturally low in iron due to menstruation and rapid growth and it shows in their skin.  

You might have your ferritin checked...  If it's up near triple digits, you could afford to dump some iron.  

Best of Luck to you!

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Hi Tim,
years ago when I was a vegan the one thing I noticed, among may other improvements, is that the quality of my skin really improved--to where it actually looked younger than before.

Now personally I don't recommend a strict vegan diet because it is so hard to do for most people. But the take-away is to clean up your diet and start consuming allot of fruits and vegetables. I was doing the Diamond's Fit for life diet, Popular in '85, which advocated nothing but fresh fruit upon waking until noon to clean the body. I don't recommend that either as a permanent plan but for short term detoxify it's okay.

Fruit has a high water content, minerals and nutrients, that are easily assimilated, lots of vitamin C, bioflavonoids, antioxidants, etc..

Avoid inflammation causing foods like cane sugar, and deep fried foods. drink lots of water each day, and do heart pumping cardiovascular exercise to increase circulation and help eliminate waste products.
Talk to your doc first.

One of the first signs of a bad diet manifests itself in skin (which is the largest organ in the human body, btw) either through inflammation (the body's reaction to something), or outbreaks (the body trying to get rid of something).

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Thanks for the ideas. I do donate blood twice a year so maybe I'll go to 4 times a year. Worth a try and it doesn't hurt me and will help others.

I have been on the zone diet (paleo) for 10 years and vegetarian (lacto/ovo) for 3 so I don't know if I can eat any more green leafy & berry type stuff. I'm around 12-15 servings a day. Very few grains, fermented soy, whey, cottage cheese, nuts, olive oil etc.

I started noticing it a year ago so the only things I started doing a year ago was working out at the gym regularly and stretching the legs out in the hottub and sauna afterwards. I'm not sure if the heat or water might do it. I've been in before without problems just not as often.

One other thing is my consumption of nuts & seeds has gone up in the last year. Could the phytic acid cause it?
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I started noticing it a year ago so the only things I started doing a year ago was working out at the gym regularly and stretching the legs out in the hottub and sauna afterwards. I'm not sure if the heat or water might do it. I've been in before without problems just not as often.


Could possibly be irritation or reaction to high concentrations of chlorine. Hot tub rash or Pseudomonas Folliculitis, Could be that there is inadequate sanitizer levels in the hot tub water and you got a skin infection from some microorganism in the water.  Ask your doctor to do a skin culture and see what he finds. Stay out of the hot tub and see if it clears up.


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Well just completed the 2 month anti-biotic regimen that the doctor prescribed to no effect. Down to 1 cup of coffee at week at most so far in January but don't see any result yet. I've asked at the gym and they test the water 3 times a day and adjust, drain the hottub once a week to scrub clean so a decent cleanliness routine.

I'm now trying some mastic gum. Basically tree sap that has been used for more than a thousand years in the Persia to Greece area for upset stomach and ulcers. It has been noted by several as solving their rosacea. Anecdotal but worth a try. I'm also doing the pro-biotic routine to fix any damage that the anti-biotics did. 

I've also switch to the regular amount of niacin in the LEF mix I take. Going to donate blood and make sure the iron levels are normal.

Just thought I'd post an update. Thanks for all the ideas folks.
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Hi, Tim.

Here's what I do for rosacea. I hope there's something helpful for you.
1. Topicals:
    . Super mild face wash. I use Clean & Clear Foaming Facial Cleanser, Sensitive Skin. It's not great, but most others I tried caused my face to get redder.
    . Sulfacetamide Sodium Topical Suspension (generic for Klaron). (Metrocream is standard for rosacea: it didn't benefit my acne, but it made my face red.) Adult Aconmel (over the counter) is similar to Sulfacetamide, cheaper, works well, but is tinted (blends okay on fair caucasian skin), and is an excellent spot treatment for acne. Sulfacetamide worked best for me and goes on smooth and clear. It's about $70 per bottle, but it lasts at least 3 months used 2x. It's a topical antibiotic, which I'd prefer to avoid, but so far I haven't eliminated rosacea without it.
    . Don't put anything else on your face when possible. Sunscreen can be a big problem, but sun exposure (even without sunburn) can cause a flare. I use facial suncreen only when I have to. Mineral sunscreen would probably be best if you don't mind looking like a ghost.
    . Most red-reducing products made my face redder or didn't help.
    . Nizoral shampoo (the prescription one, I haven't tried the over-the-counter) might help. You can wash your face with it, too. Very mild.

2. Supplements
    . Saccharomyces Boulardii (a probiotic) seems to help me. I take Jarrow brand SB daily, so I get a big dose of this, plus a mixed probiotic product.
    . B vitamins. I took regular b complex for years (didn't help), then switched to higher doses of more bioavailable forms (i.e. P5P, l-methylfolate etc .). I take 3000 mg/day niacinamide. I felt like I needed niacin, but didn't want to flush, so I choose niacinamide, which has most of the benefits of niacin without flushing. I think the only benefit you lose is cholesterol improvements.
    . I sometimes take oral seabuckthorn oil and/or lipowheat for my skin. They seem to make skin softer, but I don't know if they help with rosacea.

3. Hormones
    . I think hormones are a big factor. Hormone changes almost always cause a brief flare. Not sure what specific hormones helped me... maybe DHEA? I do bioHRT for women: estradiol, progeesterone, DHEA and a little pregnenolone.

I don't have severe rosacea with a super red face, but I might have if I didn't have a good diet and solid general supplement regimen. I eat little red meat, try to avoid toxic ingredients in foods and try to balance protein, fats and carbs in my meals.

I avoid oral antibiotics like the plague, because killing off beneficial bacteria could lead to all kinds of mysterious health problems, maybe even rosacea itself.

Good luck! Please report back.
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