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Ok then why is Magic Johnson still alive?...sounds pretty fishy to me, what next you'll say he has special drugs that other people don't have access to? that's bull...so hes the only rich guy with aids?...this is a joke one that Hitler would truly be proud of..the reason Magic is still alive is because he never had aids it was all one big joke and isnt it funny hes ten times richer now than he was back when he declared he had HIV considering he hasn't played basket ball for over 18 years see I know my stuff and this propaganda is well funded also why is it that thousands of scientists are now saying HIV=AIDS is simply not the case and Robert Gallo suddenly came out with a test the next day he found this so called virus?...nature wont be fooled forever

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Ok then why is Magic Johnson still alive?...sounds pretty fishy to me, what next you'll say he has special drugs that other people don't have access to? that's bull...so hes the only rich guy with aids?...this is a joke one that Hitler would truly be proud of..the reason Magic is still alive is because he never had aids it was all one big joke and isnt it funny hes ten times richer now than he was back when he declared he had HIV considering he hasn't played basket ball for over 18 years see I know my stuff and this propaganda is well funded also why is it that thousands of scientists are now saying HIV=AIDS is simply not the case and Robert Gallo suddenly came out with a test the next day he found this so called virus?...nature wont be fooled forever


There many people infected with the AIDS virus who are still alive. And there are millions of others who have died from this dreadful disease. I did  hear from the friend this person lived  with  the person who got AIDS die. He got that skin cancer typical of AIDS sufferers and died of pneumonia within 3 months of becoming infected. There are now treatments available that work as well as they do for the people they work for. I fail to understand why Magic Johnson`s still being alive in any way whatsoever proves that AIDS is some kind of hoax. I am sure he is getting the best medical care available. Most of the people so infected are NOT so fortunate.   ...Oscar

POST SCRIPT: You can read about AIDS in Africa here. These people by and large do NOT have expensive treatments available for them:

    http://www.globalissues.org/article/90/aids-in-africa 


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I get angry at people who deny the reality of the AIDS epidemic. Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s this epidemic was made MUCH worse by you naysayers at least here in the USA. The gay community was very concerned about keeping the bath houses of New York City open. They also said AIDS was a hoax perpetrated on them to use as a reason to close those bath houses. Well, those gays had their way. The bath houses stayed open for at least a few more years spreading this dreadful disease.
   AIDS quickly spread to the hetrosexual or straight people. IV drug use played a big role in all this. I am angry because it sure put a damper on my straight or hetrosexual lifestyle. It pretty much put an end to it. Everyone was and still is scared of getting this disease. And now we have a new generation of naysayers quoting NOBEL winners as PROOF that AIDS is a hoax.
   Thanks to you people the AIDS epidemic became all too real here in the USA. Damn right I am PO`d about this issue.   ...Oscar
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Welcome to the Forums CarlScience.

While the Forums Moderator disagrees with the hypothesis that AIDS is not caused primarily by HIV, the Forums is a place for debate among members and as long as none of the guidelines are violated, anyone is welcome to discuss this topic.  In regard to your statement, "I think LEF should ban people who deny important basic medical science like this, from the forums and from the store, because they probably lack the necessary competence to make safe decisions about what to take or what to recommend to others," it will be reiterated that any suggestions made by anyone here are not to be constituted as medical advice.

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Most of my opinion about the connection between AIDS and HIV comes from an excellent 722 page book by Dr. Peter H. Duesberg called Inventing The Aids Virus. His book proves with massive documentation that no one has proven that AIDS is caused by HIV.
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I get angry at people who deny the reality of the AIDS epidemic. Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s this epidemic was made MUCH worse by you naysayers at least here in the USA. The gay community was very concerned about keeping the bath houses of New York City open. They also said AIDS was a hoax perpetrated on them to use as a reason to close those bath houses. Well, those gays had their way. The bath houses stayed open for at least a few more years spreading this dreadful disease.
   AIDS quickly spread to the hetrosexual or straight people. IV drug use played a big role in all this. I am angry because it sure put a damper on my straight or hetrosexual lifestyle. It pretty much put an end to it. Everyone was and still is scared of getting this disease. And now we have a new generation of naysayers quoting NOBEL winners as PROOF that AIDS is a hoax.
   Thanks to you people the AIDS epidemic became all too real here in the USA. Damn right I am PO`d about this issue.   ...Oscar




I get angry when Big Pharma feeds people black box drugs designed for cancer patience and then when they die they said it was some magic virus called Aids that seems somehow know what country its in ....it really would make a good immigration officer..dont you think?...
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Ok then why is Magic Johnson still alive?...sounds pretty fishy to me, what next you'll say he has special drugs that other people don't have access to? that's bull...so hes the only rich guy with aids?...this is a joke one that Hitler would truly be proud of..the reason Magic is still alive is because he never had aids it was all one big joke and isnt it funny hes ten times richer now than he was back when he declared he had HIV considering he hasn't played basket ball for over 18 years see I know my stuff and this propaganda is well funded also why is it that thousands of scientists are now saying HIV=AIDS is simply not the case and Robert Gallo suddenly came out with a test the next day he found this so called virus?...nature wont be fooled forever


There many people infected with the AIDS virus who are still alive. And there are millions of others who have died from this dreadful disease. I did  hear from the friend this person lived  with  the person who got AIDS die. He got that skin cancer typical of AIDS sufferers and died of pneumonia within 3 months of becoming infected. There are now treatments available that work as well as they do for the people they work for. I fail to understand why Magic Johnson`s still being alive in any way whatsoever proves that AIDS is some kind of hoax. I am sure he is getting the best medical care available. Most of the people so infected are NOT so fortunate.   ...Oscar

POST SCRIPT: You can read about AIDS in Africa here. These people by and large do NOT have expensive treatments available for them:

    http://www.globalissues.org/article/90/aids-in-africa 


Yea well black box drugs that terminate your DNA chain tend to give you cancer and pneumonia...and Aids and you die yes that happens when you terminate someones DNA printer.
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I get angry at people who deny the reality of the AIDS epidemic. Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s this epidemic was made MUCH worse by you naysayers at least here in the USA. The gay community was very concerned about keeping the bath houses of New York City open. They also said AIDS was a hoax perpetrated on them to use as a reason to close those bath houses. Well, those gays had their way. The bath houses stayed open for at least a few more years spreading this dreadful disease.
   AIDS quickly spread to the hetrosexual or straight people. IV drug use played a big role in all this. I am angry because it sure put a damper on my straight or hetrosexual lifestyle. It pretty much put an end to it. Everyone was and still is scared of getting this disease. And now we have a new generation of naysayers quoting NOBEL winners as PROOF that AIDS is a hoax.
   Thanks to you people the AIDS epidemic became all too real here in the USA. Damn right I am PO`d about this issue.   ...Oscar


And you call an infection ratio of 1 in 10000 an epidemic...you cant have an epidemic under that situation if anything its a pandemic and if you take deadly black box DNA chain termination drugs you tend to die, look its not an easy virus to get, your more likely to die from a car accident than you are from Aids so why even have it cross peoples minds?...do what you want dont worry about insignificant stuff like that, 22 million people have die from AIDS ever...thats less than 1% of the global population...epidemic?...what are you talking about dude?..

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I get angry at people who deny the reality of the AIDS epidemic. Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s this epidemic was made MUCH worse by you naysayers at least here in the USA. The gay community was very concerned about keeping the bath houses of New York City open. They also said AIDS was a hoax perpetrated on them to use as a reason to close those bath houses. Well, those gays had their way. The bath houses stayed open for at least a few more years spreading this dreadful disease.
   AIDS quickly spread to the hetrosexual or straight people. IV drug use played a big role in all this. I am angry because it sure put a damper on my straight or hetrosexual lifestyle. It pretty much put an end to it. Everyone was and still is scared of getting this disease. And now we have a new generation of naysayers quoting NOBEL winners as PROOF that AIDS is a hoax.
   Thanks to you people the AIDS epidemic became all too real here in the USA. Damn right I am PO`d about this issue.   ...Oscar


And you call an infection ratio of 1 in 10000 an epidemic...you cant have an epidemic under that situation if anything its a pandemic and if you take deadly black box DNA chain termination drugs you tend to die, look its not an easy virus to get, your more likely to die from a car accident than you are from Aids so why even have it cross peoples minds?...do what you want dont worry about insignificant stuff like that, 22 million people have die from AIDS ever...thats less than 1% of the global population...epidemic?...what are you talking about dude?..


Well DUDE, AIDS is the number one infectious disease that leads to DEATH. 1.75 million deaths so far this year. Hey, why not reopen the gay bath houses so like minded people can get the AIDS epidemic cranked up once again here in the USA. See here for updated report on infectious diseases:

 http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/live-world-death-totals

Perhaps it has not occurred to you that the reason AIDS in not more of a problem than it is that many people now practice SAFE SEX at least in some countries.   ...Oscar 
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At the end of the day 1% of the global population have died from this magic virus that also might I add strangely knows what country its in, so 1%...well if your worried about that..dont drive your car or fly on a plane...infact your more likely to die on a plane crash than die from aids according to those statistics its all a carefuly engineered lie that they have been feeding people for years even the testing for HIV doesnt make sense at the end of the day are you going to trust a test that is 99% inaccurate?...you want to put your life in the hands of something like that, im in no way encouraging anyone to go out and have alot of unprotected sex as there are plenty of other things you can catch besides HIV but I am saying that you should think about what you really should worry about, like not taking life shortening drugs, not eating high fat foods, and living a healthy lifestyle, most of the deaths from AIDS is from lack of food and clean water, they it is nutrition based immune deficiency not an actual virus...if anyone claims its some super virus has to basically say that Africans like to have sex more than any other country...which just isnt true...look at Japan for example HIV and AIDS is virtually unheard of there and they are pretty active as a country, then look at the naubouring countries like Thailand which is apparently popular for HIV and AIDS...at the end of the day there is something seriously wrong with the whole HIV=AIDS thing and alot doesn't add up...since when does a virus know what country its in for a start...untill these questions are answered properly just keep yourself healthy stick to one or two partners for sex and eat good quality foods, why is there more deaths from AIDS in Africa than in other westurn countries what are the Africans doing differently to the westurn countries...as westurn countries have alot of unprotected and untested sex all the time so what makes Africa different...one and only thing comes to mind...Lack of food, lack of clean water and lack of sanitation this is the one thing that stands out from the rest.
Any comments on this are welcome as there is still not a clear answer for anything and it does appear HIV isnt a virus but a condition of lifestyle that wears the immune system down.

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