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 Posted 7/25/2012 2:15:12 PM
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Since I take a lot of supplements and due to many times overlapping ingredients I try to keep the oversight of how much of each I get in a spreadsheet. So that I might be able to catch an offending in the case of adverse reactions, and for being able to learn at which doses interactions or synergies together with my individual bio-chemistry occur. A very complex and difficult thing by itself. But impossible if the actual amounts of ingredients are obfuscated by the bland statement of a 'proprietary blend' in the supplement facts.

Therefore I principally just don't use any proprietary blends.Though this way I might really miss the benefits of some synergies, or the price disadvantage by having to buy ingredients separately.

However, the latest 'Adreanal Energy Formula' with it's additional LEF Magazine article could be the first real exception. Though it's supplement fact only state:

Serving Size 2 vegetarian capsulesServings Per Container 30Amount Per Serving

OciBest® Holy Basil (Ocimum tenuiflorum) extract 10:1 (whole plant) [std. to 2.5% triterpene acids (15 mg)] 600 mg

Proprietary Blend: 516 mg
Sensoril® Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) extract 5:1 (root and leaves) [std. to 8% withanolide glycoside conjugates and 32% oligosaccharides]
Cordyceps Cs-4 (Paecilomyces hepiali) extract 8:1 (mycelia) [std. to 7% cordycepic acid]
BaCognize® Ultra (Bacopa monnieri) extract 25:1 (whole herb) [std. to 25% bacopa glycosides]

The accompanying article contains these statement (bolded by the article author):

... took 1,200 mg a day of Holy Basil (Ocimum tenuiflorum)
... a standardized Bacopa monnieri extract in a 300 mg oral dosage once per day. (This is equivalent to 132 mg daily of a more concentrated Bacopa extract.)
... Cordyceps (strain Cs-4) in dosages of 3 grams daily. (This translates to 375 mg of commercially prepared product, because it is formulated as an 8:1 extract.)
... one of three Ashwagandha dosage groups: 125 mg once a day, 125 mg twice a day, or 250 mg twice a day.

Therefore it seems plausible the ingredients for the suggested 2 caps/day in this new product are actually half of what's suggested in the article as most effecting dose. Adding 132 mg Bacopa with 375 mg Cordyceps are 507 mg, which would leave a difference of 525 mg of Ashwagandha - if the doses in the article are really correlated in a meaningful way to those in the new product. Which for each 2 caps serving would give for the proprietary blend:

66 mg Bacopa monnieri extract
187,5 mg Cordyceps CS-4 extract
262,5 mg Ashwaganha extract

Seems plausible enough. Are my assumption completely off?
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 Posted 7/25/2012 2:51:20 PM
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Further LEF products I would consider buying, if I had only approximate amounts of ingredients:
  • Berry Complete - AnthoComplete™ Full Spectrum Anthocyanin Blend, VitaBerry® High ORAC† Antioxidant Fruit Blend & POMELLA® Pomegranate (Punica granatum) Extract (fruit) 400 mg [containing fruit, vegetable and legume standardized extracts, powders and concentrate from pomegranate (Punica granatum), elderberry (Sambucus nigra), blackcurrant (Ribes nigrum), wild blueberry (Vaccinium angustifolium), sweet cherry (Prunus avium), acai (Euterpe oleracea), blackberry (Rubus fruticosus), aronia (Aronia melanocarpa), raspberry and raspberry seed (Rubus idaeus), black soybean (Glycine max) hull, blue corn (Zea mays), wild bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus), grape and grape seed (Vitis vinifera), cranberry (Vaccinium macrocarpon), prune (Prunus domestica), tart cherry (Prunus cerasus) and strawberry (Fragaria virginiana)]
Though in this case I wouldn't have to know the amount of each and every ingredient - only what is the proportion between standardized extracts and plant powders?

  • Advanced Natural Sex for Women - Proprietary Blend: 1075 mg, MacaPure® Maca (Lepidium meyenii) extract 5:1 (root) [std. to 0.6% macamides and macaenes], Cordyceps Cs-4 (Paecilomyces hepiali) extract 8:1 (mycelia) [std. to 0.7% cordycepic acid]
How much of each extract? Half/half?
  • Prelox Natural Sex for Men - Prelox® Proprietary Blend: 720 mg, Arginine HCl, Aspartic Acid, Pycnogenol® Dried French Maritime Pine (Pinus pinaster) extract (bark), Icariin [from Natural Sex® Epimedium sagittatum extract (aerial parts)] 30 mg
How much Pycogenol? How much Horny Goat Weed extract?
  • Krill Healthy Joint Formula - Proprietary Blend† [Antarctic Krill (Euphausia superba) oil, Sodium Hyaluronate, Natural Astaxanthin (from Zanthin® Haematococcus pluvialis algae extract)] 353 mg
How much Krill oil? How much Astaxanthin?




Thanks in advance for any answers.
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 Posted 7/26/2012 4:55:50 AM
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Berry Complete has, unfortunately, some soy, so if you have any thyroid issues, it might not be wise to take.  As for Pycnogenol, I take 200 mg/day--it definitely helps with blood circulation.
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 Posted 8/1/2012 9:54:15 AM
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Soy or it's lack in my diet didn't effect my thyroid either way.

I already spend 3/5 of my income for supplements together with as much as possible food organically grown. I simple can't afford 200 mg of pycogenol a day, as much as I would love to. - And my PAD, against which I successfully supplement (to a certain degree), could still benefit from additional circulation.

Therefore my questions about these proprietary blends which are on sale now too. Some of them could give me at least a bid of certain helpful ingredients - which I otherwise couldn't afford . But without really being sure they're not containing much more than 1-2 mgs - buying any o those would be more like gambling with my health - which I can't afford also financially anymore.
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 Posted 8/2/2012 4:19:27 AM
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Pamoja, Product Development provided the following:

01206- Berry Complete:

This product contains 400 mg of AnthoComplete™ Full Spectrum Anthocyanin Blend, VitaBerry® High ORAC† Antioxidant Fruit Blend & POMELLA®Pomegranate (Punica granatum) Extract (fruit) per serving:

150 mg of AnthoComplete™ Full Spectrum Anthocyanin Blend( This blend contains elderberry, black currant extract, wild blueberry extract,sweet cherry, acai, blackberry, aronia, raspberry, black soybean hull extract, blue corn extract, wild bilberry extract) – The breakdown of these ingredientsis proprietary.

150 mg of VitaBerry® High ORAC Antioxidant Fruit Blend (This blend contains grape and grape seed extract, wild blueberry and wild blueberry extract, raspberry and raspberry seed concentrate, cranberry, prune, tart  cherry, wild bilberry and wild bilberry extract, strawberry) – The breakdown ofthese ingredients is proprietary.

100 mg of POMELLA® Pomegranate (Punica granatum) extract(fruit) 



01627- Advanced Natural Sex for Women®:

This product contains 1075 mg of proprietary blend perserving:

700mg of MacaPure® Maca (Lepidium meyenii) extract 5:1(root) [std. to 0.6% macamides and macaenes]

375 mg of Cordyceps Cs-4 (Paecilomyces hepiali) extract 8:1(mycelia) [std. to 7% cordycepic acid] 

 

01373- Prelox® Natural Sex for Men®:

This product contains 720 mg of Prelox® Proprietary Blend per serving:

400 mg of L-arginine HCl, 300 mg of aspartic acid, 20 mg ofPycnogenol® Dried French Maritime pine (Pinus pinaster) extract (bark) 



01600- Krill Healthy Joint Formula:

The blend of ingredients used in this product is proprietary.

 


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 Posted 8/2/2012 12:02:56 PM
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Thanks a lot for your efforts, DDye!

These informations help me already much for deciding.

Best regards.
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