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Anybody ever read of a true review of a product calledTotal Balance Men’s Premium from Xtend Life out of Christchurch, New Zealand?  Or has anybody heard of this supplement ortried it?

I am torn between the LEF Mix Capsules and Total Balancefrom Xtend Life.  The main reason I amfavoring Xtend Life is because of all of the added amino acids and this stuffthat LEF Mix does not contain:

RNA (Ribonucleic acid, from yeast)

150 mg

MSM

100 mg

(Methyl sulfonyl methane)

Soy lecithin

100 mg

Betain HCL

99 mg

Choline bitartrate

93 mg

DMG HCL

90 mg

N-acetyl glucosamine

79 mg

SAMe

51 mg

Alpha lipoic acid

50 mg

Bacopa extract

50 mg

Black cumin extract

50 mg

Ginkgo extract

50 mg

(Ginkgo Biloba leaf)

(providing 12.5 mg of ginkgo flavonoglycosides and 3 mg of terpenelactones)

Guggul gum extract

50 mg

(from Commiphora mukul)

Pine bark extract

50 mg

(Pinus massoniana)

Red clover extract

50 mg

(Trifolium pratense aerial parts)

(providing 2.5 mg of isoflavones)

Turmeric extract

50 mg

(Curcuma longa root)

(providing 47.5 mg of curcuminoids)

5-HTP

49 mg

(5-Hydroxytryptophan from Griffonia simplicifolia seed)

Myricetin

49 mg

(from 70 mg of Bayberry leaf extract Myrica cerifera)

Mineral sea salts

30 mg

(providing trace elements including rubidium, strontium and tungsten)

Piperine

28 mg

(from 30 mg of Piper nigrum extract Black pepper fruit)

Trans-resveratrol

25 mg

(from 50 mg of Japanese knotweed Polygonum cuspidatum root)

Isoflavones

20 mg

(from 50 mg of Soybean extract)

Coenzyme Q-10

19 mg

(Kaneka Ubidecarenone Ubiquinone )

Alfalfa extract

10 mg

(Medicago sativa aerial parts)

(equivalent to 110 mg of fresh alfalfa)

Phosphatidyl L-serine

9 mg

(from 50 mg of Soybean lecithin)

Policosanol

8 mg

(from 17 mg of Sugar cane extract)

ATP

5 mg

(Adenosine triphosphate, from Yeast)

Tocotrienol/tocopherol complex

2 mg

(from 10 mg of Tocomin® from Palm tree oil)

Vinpocetine

2 mg

(from Periwinkle flower)

Amino Acid Blend

L-lysine HCL

164.18 mg

L-carnosine

148.50 mg

L-tyrosine

100.00 mg

L-arginine HCL

90.00 mg

L-methionine

89.55 mg

L-ornithine HCL

50.00 mg

L-proline

50.00 mg

L-cysteine

49.75 mg

L-glutamine

49.75 mg

L-pyroglutamic acid

49.75 mg

(Reduced) L-glutathione

49.00 mg

Male Health Support Blend

Phytosterols

190 mg

(from 200 mg Soybean extract)

Saw palmetto extract

160 mg

(Serenoa repens fruit)

(providing 40 mg of fatty acids)

Nettle extract

100 mg

(Urticae dioica root)

Chrysin

99 mg

(from Oroxylum indicum bark)

Nattozimes®

50 mg

(Protease from fermentation of Aspergillus oryzae & Aspergillus melleus)

Amylase

30 mg

(from fermentation of Aspergillus oryzae)

Lipase

20 mg

(from fermentation of Aspergillus niger)

Immunity Stimulating Blend

Aloe vera

50 mg

(Aloe barbadensis leaf juice powder)

(equivalent to 10,000 mg of Aloe leaf juice)

Olive leaf extract

50 mg

(Olea europaea)

(providing 7.5 mg of oleuropein)

Beta glucan

35 mg

(from yeast)

Tea polysaccharides

12 mg

(from 50 mg of Camellia sinensis leaf)

Astaxanthin

800 mcg

(from 40 mg of Haematococcus pluvialis)

Zeaxanthin

475 mcg

(from 10 mg of Aztec marigold flower)


Now, the manufacturer and it’s supporting websites (thereare some reviews out there, but they seem to be run by the company or folkspaid by the company) says that the lower dosages of vitos and other nutrientsis okay because of the enteric coating and the total blend working together toincrease absorption and thus the effectiveness of the entire formulation.  Is that a line of crap or is there truth toit?

I’m no MD or expert on this stuff, so I’m hoping somebodyout there can shed some light on this question for me.

Is Xtend Life’s Total Balance Men’s Premium better thanLife Extension Mix?

Answering this question may be complicated because XtendLife’s product is gender specific while LEF’s is not.  However, LEF has “more” of the stuff weneed.  Xtend Life also has the naturally occurringversions of all vitamins such as B-12 where LEF Mix may have some syntheticforms.

**Small note on Consumer Labs**

I don’t really trust Consumer Labs because the manufacturerhas to pay to be part of their program and whenever that sort of thing happens,the “results” are not true.  So ConsumerLab ratings mean nothing to me.  Lots ofindustries do this sort of thing, furniture for example has a label you’ll findon Basset furniture (found at Babies R Us) and every single Basset item islisted as a “Top pick” but when you look deeper into it, you find out thatBasset is a founding member of the organization and pays top dollar for topratings.  The ratings are not real.  Consumer Labs falls into that category as faras I’m concerned.

**End Consumer Labs Note**

The cost of taking LEF Mix and adding the “missing” stufffrom Xtend Life TBMP is too much!  Pleasehelp me sort this one out!

Thank you in advance.

p.s. I use lots of LEF products including LEF Mix Capsules.



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If the amino acids are your main focus, they aren't present in significant amounts in Xtend Life.  They appear more as token amounts to justify their inclusion on a label.  Compare these amounts with one serving of a protein source such as whey: http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01094/Enhanced-Life-Extension-Whey-Protein-Natural.html

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Thanks for the quick reply!  I'll look into this product right now.

I think I'll post another question later about Chrysin and if men should take it or not... thanks again!
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Consumer Labs does NOT require manufacturers to pay to be a part of their program and testing.

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Ross7755,

You’re correct… it seems the section of their website I read was about the “voluntary testing” where the manufacturer wants to be CLApproved and use the CL logo to promote the supplement.

Thanks for the post… made me revisit the site to see what it was I was talking about!

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The soy in the above product would be toxic to many individuals.  Soy is estrogenic and damages the thyroid.
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Does Xtend Life offer any assurance the soy components of the formula are not sourced from genetically modified soybeans? Ask them and let us know. 
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Or is the soy derived from fermentation?
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According to www.multivitaminguide.org ,Xtendlife is rated #1 and LEF mix is #8-
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According to www.multivitaminguide.org ,Xtendlife is rated #1 and LEF mix is #8-


I checked how they rate the vitamins: Rating System

One criteria is how close the nutrient amounts follow the current recommended daily allowance(RDA) or DRI as determined by the US Food and Nutrition Board.

For example 800 IU of D3 would be considered optimal for a top score. Then there isn't a whole lot of calcium included in LEF mix, it's left to add if needed by the buyer but points are lost here also. And so on with the amounts of other nutrients.

So many nutrients are very new based on solid research in the LEF mix. There is no points given for relatively new nutrients that have been shown recently to have very beneficial effects.

No one is hardly qualified to rate the LEF mix, it's too much to really ask for anyone to do except a very few who have been following the recent studies.

They need a rating system for "rating systems". Smile


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