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 Posted 2/23/2012 1:27:28 PM
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I used to take iosol and got great results (weight loss, more energY, but also acne unfortunately), but then it stopped working. 

i test normal for thyroid hormone panel, but have so many symptoms of being hypo.

i want to try iodoral.

is it better than iosol or other iodine?
how much should i take?

also does anyone cycle?

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I took iodoral for about 18 months, just stopped about a week ago. I got my iodine level tested and it was nearly double what it should have been and my thyroid panel looked a bit weird as well. My TSH was higher than it probably should be at 2.220, while T4, T4 Free, T3 Free all were above midrange. TSH supposedly optimally should be close to 1.000, so it seems that it was possibly pushing higher to get rid of excess Iodine, but that really is just a guess.

TSH - 2.220 (0.450-4.500)
Thyroxine (T4) - 10.0 (4.5-12.0)
Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum - 4.1 (2.0-4.4)
T4,Free(Direct) -  1.43 (0.82-1.77)
Iodine, Serum or Plasma - 134.2 (40.0-92.0)

My recommendation would be to either take LEF Sea-Iodine (1mg), or possibly just take half of an Iodoral per day (~ 6.25mg), as a full Iodoral (12.5mg) pill seems to be way too much, at least for me anyway... I personally switched to 900mcg split throughout the day since my local vitamin store didn't have the LEF Sea-Iodine pills.


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Calc,

You mention a lot of blood work at regular intervals.

Frankly the sight of my blood puts me out faster than anything else, shocking behavior, but shedding blood isn't a badge of honor I wear lightly.

But I'm curious to know your testing routine and which have proven the most beneficial.

I've heard of SpectraCell and believe its for vitamin/mineral and I've heard of the TSH (phenomenally bad? at predicting Thyroid problems).

Beyond that though I'm at a total loss.

Are there any good books on how to weigh the pros and cons of picking and choosing tests or a protocol for determining the most economical path to predicative coverage?

Along those lines I've wondered about viral loads, infectious diseases ectera as well.. it seems almost like children need a panel of tests for coming into Life, older indidviduals should have a panel based on the common odds of contracting sub-chronic or chronic diseases and infections they should test for.. Lyme comes to mind.. but then I've never randomly picked a disease and deliberately tested for it.

Its odd.. seems just as odd.. to base medicine on "symptoms" as it is basing them on statistical evidence or probability. An open wound.. okay.. you got grounds for treating that.. but if a large proportion of people have Hepatitis-C or some type of chronic Liver disease and don't know it.. seems like we should regularly test for that.

Thanks for your insights.

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Sorry for the slow response, been busy this past week.

I'm afraid of needles/blood so yea that is a lot of fun. :-\

I test at least Chemistry Panel & Complete Blood Count each time I go in. I have tested nearly every nutrient via serum/rbc level at one time at least, and have had the SpectraCell test done once back in Oct. A few of the more uncommon tests are cheaper elsewhere, but I get most of the non-SpectraCell tests via LEF. SpectraCell seems to be more reliable for detecting deficiencies, esp masked ones, eg things serum levels don't show, but it can't detect over intake, which serum tests are useful for. I had very low copper and B6 on my SpectraCell test but serum of copper appeared fine and B6 was way over limit (ie not being used). I switched B6 to p5p and doubled my intake of copper and things seem to be improving slowly. I'm getting the SpectraCell test done again in a few weeks to see if those changes helped. Until last month SpectraCell didn't cover manganese, and it still doesn't cover several of the other minerals either: eg Boron, Iodine, Molybdenum, Vanadium. The rest are covered by the CP/CBC, insuring you aren't taking too much does require serum/whole blood tests though.

TSH doesn't tell you much other than that the is thyroid being told to work hard. It appears it can be high (hypo) for various reasons not directly related to the thyroid itself. As I have fixed various nutrient issues it appears my TSH has slowly been going down to roughly where it should be (normal is thought to be ~ 1.0).

As far as books I'm not aware of any covering testing but they may be out there. There are books that are pretty interesting on vitamins though such as 'Handbook of Vitamins', along with lots of pubmed studies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus_latency  - is also interesting, I noticed it when looking up my low manganese result with respect to MnSOD.
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Have you ever used Lugol's iodine and if so what did you find?
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I haven't used Lugol's but I have taken Iodoral both in 50mg and 12.5mg forms for about a year or so before dropping down to just 900mcg Iodine per day.

SpectraCell apparently is planning to add Iodine to their test sometime in the near future (maybe next year or so), it was listed on a slideshow they published documenting the Manganese and Immunidex additions to their test.
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Hi Calc,

I am new to the forum. Forgive me if I am duplicating previous postings.

I am a recent IODORAL convert as it is much better than Lugols. Lugols only contains the iodine salt KI (potassium iodide) 10%. IODORAL  contains the elemental iodine  I2 which is more protective particularly to  breast tissue.

Addressing thyroid disease is a challenge. One has to look at the adrenal gland and hormone functions as well and balance the three - thyroid-adrenal-hormone. Then do the balancing act.

Lots if not all thyroid disease patients have wavering control it seems. I tried looking at the adrenal and hormone as well and one may find your answer than not. Then you are entering a wider world of MTHFR mutation (methyltetrahydroxyfolatereductase gene mutation), homocysteine, SHBG, estrogen metabolites, Vit D3 etc. Findings this gene- addressing its heterozygous or homozygous deficiency of either C677T or A1298C and giving redox preparations address the problem including Hashimotos. It May take more than 4 months to show changes. And then, one must understand that if the gene has mutated support for that should be on going.

In a nutshell - One has to look at the wholistic health.


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I, too, love Iodoral! I have to vary it according to how it feels. I take on average, about 500 mg of tyrosine with it. I vary both. When caffeine is not working, my tyrosine is too low. Energy down, then I need more Iodoral. When I say energy, its almost more like drive and ambition, and alertness. I take 1 Iodoral tab per day. Working hard, I take 1.5 tabs. They break in half easy. If I am a little too wired at night, I drop the doses of both down. Tyrosine will vary between 300-600 mg, 400-500 more typical.

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I support what Lita said in her post.
I'm a naturopath and I specialize in thyroid health.
Thyroid issues aren't easy issues.  And it's much more than only a question of iodine.
In fact, I've rarely seen miraculous results when patients were on Iodoral or on Lugol's solution.
Why? Because it's multifactorial.  Because all causes must me addressed, and causes are specific to each and every patient.
These include hormonal balance, blood sugar regulation, body composition, genetic mutation (MTHFR), nutritional deficiencies, inflammation, etc.

references:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20688624
also: naturopathe a Montreal specialise dans la sante de la glande thyroide
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