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What alternative medicine modalities have you used regularly?

What alternative medicine modalities have you used regularly?
What alternative medicine modalities have you used regularly?

Chiropractic
23 votes 22.33%
Acupuncture/acupressure
17 votes 16.5%
Biofeedback
3 votes 2.91%
Massage
22 votes 21.36%
Visualization
8 votes 7.77%
Ayurveda
5 votes 4.85%
Detoxification
13 votes 12.62%
Other
12 votes 11.65%
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 Posted 11/4/2011 9:32:00 AM
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Many alternatives to allopathic medicine exist, and a large number have been in existence longer.  Which have you used and which have been successful?

My personal favorite is chiropractic!


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Well, for me there are two: BHT [ butylated hydroxytoune ] for hepatitis C and as a protection against other lipid coated viruses. Also for it`s life extension properties.
   I have also been using or doing the Primal Therapy thing for different mental problems, many of which I have resolved successfully and others I am still working on.   ...Oscar
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That was not the way it was meant.  It has worked for me for decades.

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Chiropractic, as a form of therapy for the musculoskeletal system, akin to massage therapy has worked absolutely wonders for me.

Chiropractic, as a magic cure-all to treat anything other than stiff joints and the like is nothing short of pure quackery,  Getting chiropractic adjustments to treat your ear infection? --say what?!!!  



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Many alternatives to allopathic medicine exist, and a large number have been in existence longer.  Which have you used and which have been successful?

My personal favorite is chiropractic!


NO alternatives to medical science exist. If you don't like what science says, tough! Reality doesn't change to fit your desires.

Allopathic does NOT mean conventional medicine. Allopathy is a form of alternative medicine based on humours, such as in Ayurveda. Only stupid homeopaths should use allopathy to describe sanity.

I hope you mean chiropractic is your favorite to laugh at, mock, and belittle. Because it's mine too.


Dear Carl Science, I AM a big believer in science. The massive problem with science regarding medicine or medical treatments is that: IT IS TOTALLY CONTROLLED by the very UNSCIENTIFIC capitalists. Money rules in this so called scientific world you speak of.
   Very real and scientifically proven treatments are not only ignored but actively discredited by BIG PHARMA. Top on my list of such scientifically proven treatments is BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ]. Many scientists including Dr. Denham Harman have PROVEN in mice studies BHT`s ability to PREVENT and treat cancer and viral diseases.
   So be a little careful when waving the SCIENTISTS` card around here. The approved treatments for things including all forms of cancer have changed very little since the 1950s. Radiation and very damaging chemo-therapies based on the ancient notion that you can carefully use very poisonous compounds and treatments [ radiation ] to kill more cancer cells than healthy cells.
   The medical establishment`s pathetic lack of improvement in treating many cancers speaks for itself. There are many innovative treatments [ ultrasound for prostrate cancer ] is one. The medical establishment has not yet approved. Any and all stem cell procedures are NOT available in the USA. And on and on.   ...Oscar

Also: Be very careful when crossing swords with DDye. She is THE person who has kept this forum going for a long time now [ decades ]. I have at times disagreed with her cautious approach to some things. She has proven to me that she knows what she is talking about.
   You offend ME when you step into this forum with what I see as some sort of " I am a scientist and better than you " attitude. Are you a scientist ? Do you have a degree in one or more of the LIFE SCIENCES ? You know: Biology, biochemistry, molecular biology, things like that. Do you ? My guess is you are a second year premed student at best.
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I second Oscar's comments with one caveat: I couldn't care less what credentials, if any, that Mr. Science, Carl or whatever he calls himself, brings to this forum. 
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Carl:  Conventional medicine, termed "allopathic medicine," is based on "cutting, burning, and poisoning."  Sometimes, it's necessary, but most of the time it isn't.  Most medical conditions result from an imbalance of natural compounds, either too little or too much, in the brain or body.  The purpose of orthomolecular medicine is to find the optimal combination of supplements and food and exercise and brain stimulation so as to result in the correct chemical functioning of the brain and body.


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Carl:  Conventional medicine, termed "allopathic medicine," is based on "cutting, burning, and poisoning."  Sometimes, it's necessary, but most of the time it isn't.  Most medical conditions result from an imbalance of natural compounds, either too little or too much, in the brain or body.  The purpose of orthomolecular medicine is to find the optimal combination of supplements and food and exercise and brain stimulation so as to result in the correct chemical functioning of the brain and body.




Great response Trans. You nailed conventional medicine in a very few words. You did allow for some important exceptions. There are times when surgery is the only answer to some problems. Skin cancer IS one. And of course antibiotic drugs for bacterial infections are great when they work. Antibiotics such as penicillin chemically bond to the different bacteriums life essential enzymes and thereby deactivate them and kill the bacteriums only and do not harm human cells. I am sure you already know this. The problem with antibiotics is that resistant strains have evolved over the many years since Mr. Fleming discovered penicillin. We all struggle on as best we can. Your advice is good advice.   ...Oscar
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The term "allopathic" was used in the poll because most people understand it as referring to "conventional" medicine.  However, CarlScience is correct in pointing out its original meaning, which is not the same as what it is commonly used to refer to today.  "AMA approved" may have been a better term.  "Traditional," "Western," and even "conventional," can be misunderstood or argued as incorrect, i.e., herbalism, Chinese medicine, ayurveda are all traditional, or conventional in some cultures.  Also, Wikipedia pointed out that "allopathic" is often used in a critical context, which was not the intent of my usage of the word. 
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Political rant:

When I was a kid in the 60s most doctors were healers and scientists first. They wanted to help people and/or expand scientific knowledge. They didn't mind that they couldn't get rich from natural substances. Doctors were admired for their noble values.

Today, most doctors function as business people with a bit of lawyer. Too risky to recommend something your body actually needs, so I'll cling to (legally) safe (for the doctor) FDA-approved remedies.

Capitalism worked great when people had better values. When too many people seek money and don't care how they get it, capitalism plus medicine is a disaster. Which Ayn Rand character is running medicine today? Do our businessmen today need more freedom or more ethics?

Capitalism has become like religion. No matter how awful the results we keep demanding total freedom for capitalists. This could end capitalism. Most people aren't subtle thinkers. When they realize capitalism is harming us, they won't try to restore ethics, they'll regulate it to death. That's how agencies like the FDA are created to "protect" us.

Everyone loves the idea that our doctors have carefully studied science and offer the best treatments, but when your bones start decaying, they give you FDA-approved toxic meds to put non-bone in your bones and chide you like a child when you ask for bioHRT and vitamin K. My best doctors merely had minds open to "my crazy ideas." This is not leadership, it's submission to a broken system.

Alternative medicine has most of the best and safest remedies. The AMA has turned its back on supplements. They spread the myths that supplements are unscientific and more dangerous than FDA-approved drugs. Simply ignoring research on basic nutrients causes people to suffer and die needlessly. In 1930s doctors knew niacin had something to do with schizophrenia and mood disorders. Is anyone even working on that anymore? But it's "sound science" to give psychoactive meds to children without long-term testing? There is no science without open minds.

Unless the medical establishment changes, more patients will opt out until they need something American medicine is good at like diagnosis, setting a bone, or intensive care. This could reduce the cost of medicine and boost the good-old-fashioned capitalist supplement industry, which, if you buy with a little care, is working pretty well without a bunch of regulations.

And to all the doctors who are wise enough (and brave enough) to recommend supplements to patients, a great big THANK YOU! Thank you for being a leader and for doing what is best for your patients. Smile You have earned my respect.

Elaine


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