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 Posted 10/10/2012 4:16:38 PM
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I'd like to hear about this "success story" with Ho shou wouh. I took this stuff for 3 years with not a single repigmented strand in the end. BTW, I took the real Mc Coy, ground from the plant root.
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 Posted 10/10/2012 4:19:00 PM
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I too have heard Ho Shou Wu doesn't work.  Those gray away tablets also don't work either.
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peterb (10/9/2012)
Hi ZZ,

A practical question: do you take pills/tablets or do you purchase the actual root and make your soup or broth with it? I read somewhere that the latter is not unusual... It might make a difference...


I just buy the capsules and take about 1200 milligrams a day. You can take more but I find it affects my concentration if I take too much, it acts to enhance dopamine which improves concentration if not overdone. That might just be me though, I take tyrosine etc and might have higher dopamine levels already.  I think life extension has them or plenty of others do. I have some Chinese friends and they told me they have made a tea from the actual root, but not to make their hair dark.

Really the way it conditions the hair is nearly as good as making it darker. Another interesting thing is the white hairs seem to slowly get greyer as they revive, then I suppose they suddenly completely revive and the individual hairs go black. The pattern of going dark is unusual as well, from the back of my neck upwards it went dark much more quickly, then there are patches of dark in unusual places. it looks like I had it streaked.
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brm (10/10/2012)
I'd like to hear about this "success story" with Ho shou wouh. I took this stuff for 3 years with not a single repigmented strand in the end. BTW, I took the real Mc Coy, ground from the plant root.


Maybe the way you took it was wrong, I have some Chinese friends who have taken it as a tea from their Chinese market. They didn't notice any hair changes, they had never heard of the hair darkening effect. I don't know which part is in the capsules, all I know is it works for me. Diabecon is an Indian herbal mixture that worked a little for me.

I could post some photos if it can be done here, I took pictures with the same phone in the same hairdressers under the same lights each month. 
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 Posted 10/12/2012 12:37:15 PM
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Fo-ti didn't work for me, either.  There are far too many people on this forum who have tried it without success. 

There are some on another forum that claim a natural foods diet changed the color of their hair.  

I take regimens seriously when they work for more than just 2% of the population. 
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 Posted 10/12/2012 12:54:07 PM
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The only thing that supposedly works is drinking GREEN FOODS but I can't find a single post anywhere that states the reversal of gray hair other than that one lady.  What I have noticed is that the internet just repeats what was posted on a page.  So, if one person states greens reversed by gray hair, then ALL of the internet will pick that up and run with it.  I am drinking a GREEN FOOD supplement now so I should know next month if it does have that effect.  The only effect reviewers rave about for GREENS is improved energy and a detoxing of the colon.
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 Posted 10/13/2012 3:44:26 PM
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Fo-ti didn't work for me, either.  There are far too many people on this forum who have tried it without success. 

There are some on another forum that claim a natural foods diet changed the color of their hair.  

I take regimens seriously when they work for more than just 2% of the population. 


Fo-Ti obviously works for some people, look at the reputations and names of virtually all the herbs out there and most have been vindicated as actually working. It has always had a reputation for getting rid of grey hair from its original Chinese name. The real question here is how it works and why it doesn't work for everyone. It needs research to establish this, for example looking at newly colored hairs under a microscope and comparing that to pictures when that hair was grey. Seeing what chemicals changed in the hair, etc.

There are probably 3 reasons why it doesn't work for some.

1. Genetic. This doesn't tell us much, however prematurely grey hair seems to be genetic in some families like baldness.

2. Too far gone. Maybe some hair can recover unless the hair follicle completely dies and then nothing works.

3. Synergy. Maybe Fo-Ti needs something else to work along with it such as other herbs or nutrition. It might even be that the original grey hair happened because of malnutrition. It's a good idea to take a lot of vitamins and antioxidants as part of this attempt, for example maybe the hair gets bleached by hydrogen peroxide as the advertisements for catalase claim. I take a lot of Amla, maybe that helps. Also it may be that other Chinese herbs help the process, by themselves they don't reverse the grey but add fo-ti and it works. For example I take astragalus and ginseng. I also have soy, that's a connection to Chinese people where Fo-Ti was discovered.

4. Stress. There are cases of people going grey from stress, maybe this relates to a need for more antioxidants or needing to relax more.

5. Other hair effects. I've noticed an amazing change in the flexibility of my hair in lying down flat even when very short. This indicates more healthy hair in other ways, it might be necessary to change your nutrition to get this healthy hair effect and then grey reversal will follow. That might be easier to track down than watching for grey hair changes as it is only a few percent of difference per month. Also look for if grey hairs appear less grey, you might need to photograph your hair under the same light with the same camera and look for changes in tint with an art program to see this for sure.

6. Have a forum for those that succeed not just for those that don't. If people find something that works listen to all their stories for some common approaches. It works for some people, the others might be successful too with some trial and error.
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 Posted 10/14/2012 11:18:17 AM
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Thank you for your thoughts, zzgorme.  By the way, if the hair follicle completely dies as hypothesized in your second point, there wouldn't be any hair, regardless of color.

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Your response to my post is utter mule muffins.

With the way your slanted it, you make it sound like fo-ti works for the majority of people and it doesn't work for a minority.

Hardly.   There is NO  scientific proof fo-ti reverses grey hair - no independent clinical studies whatsoever. 

In fact, even the anectodal evidence online is filled with stories from the vast majority of users saying it did nothing for them.  And as Hairy said above, there are a few random post from the Internet on fo-ti that have been re-destributed across forums this creating a misperception.  I would suspect those posts came from fo-ti peddlers.

And if you're using this board as some kind of scientific proof, well the vast majority of reliable posters (those who have tried various regimens and have been around the forum for awhile) have reported it did not work for them after an extensive trial.

Now you will make all kinds of excuses for that (they used the wrong brand, they went to the wrong side of the street in Chinatown, they didn't take it while standing on their head, etc.).

I'm not going to waste any more time answering your response as you so off base, it's not even worth the 1:20 mins I put into this post alone.  

Don't waste your time applying for a job at the CDC in Atlanta.
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I agree with Stargazer's post.  When a claim is made, I do a generalized internet search for good AND bad reviews.  When all the good reviews sound like they are written by the same person, you realize a lie is being stated.

Not hair related, but I was researching a doctor for a procedure.  I did a google search and the same answer to a question about the efficacy of the procedure came up on several web pages.  I called the Dr.'s office and asked how all the posts about his surgery have the same story: son in TN, had procedure, now miraculously recovered.  After a day or so the office manager emails me and stated: several google alerts came to the office asking an answer to that same question so she just responded.  Now, the questions were on numerous different sites made by different people.  How in the world would google know to alert their office about a question about an eye procedure?

The doctor may be a good doctor, but posting the same lie on the internet reduces your credibility by at least 70%.  With reduced credibility, you have to have proof something works. 

No one can produce proof that FO-TI works.  If FO TI worked, George Clooney and all the stars dying their hair would be using it.
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