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 Posted 1/13/2014 10:23:16 AM
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It was me who theorized about using it to prevent gray hair.

I'm 25 and have maybe 15ish gray hairs. Early graying is FAR from a serious problem, but it isn't mentally pleasant either (similar to vitiligo I suppose). I emphasize with anyone suffering from it or something similar (like premature hair loss, etc). Currently I'm testing it out on a small area where 3 gray hairs are grouped together (made my own lotion with Pseodocatalase's product). I want to see how my normal colored hair responds before I jump in the deep end and cover my entire head. With all that being said, after seeing the most recent photos I'm more optimistic than before. We'll see what happens.

*The "discolored" hair I have isn't actually gray/silver. It's a "shiny white" color and is actually hard to see without the right lighting. When I cut one out and hold it up to the light it doesn't appear "dead" or "santa claus" white. The shine is probably caused by the H202 bleaching. 

Also, FWIW, I'm not fair skin. I have dark brown hair, black eyebrows, and black facial hair. I also tan easily. Whether the hair turns silver or white is probably random and dependent on genetics.
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 Posted 1/14/2014 7:40:55 AM
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I received the powders today. Do you think it's okay to mix it with baby shampoo?
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 Posted 1/14/2014 9:27:15 AM
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Baby shampoo definitely will not work. If you need to reverse engineer the carrier, here is my suggestion. Get a bunch of different shampoos. Mix up the batch of pseudocatalase. Test one drop of each shampoo with one drop of pseudocatalase. The shampoo should NOT react with the pseudocatalase in 30 minutes (or even longer). Once you think you have a winner, add a drop of H2O2. Do not waste a batch of pseudocatalase by assuming something will work and mixing the whole batch. Test it first with a drop. Then make a small batch, place it in a sealed container, and wait overnight and test again. If it works in the morning, you should be good to mix the entire batch with that carrier. And, again, store in an airtight container. Moisture from the air will, very slowly, lead to degradation. (The moisture goes into solution, forms H2O2 at 0.1-1 mM concentrations, which then reacts with the pseudocatalase.) In choosing potential shampoos, the fancier the ingredient list, the more likely that one of the ingredients will react. 

Pseudocatalase will react with most shampoos and creams (which is why we offer it in a stable carrier - although US only). This problem will plague people using the powder as it plagued the researchers studying vitiligo. Multiple third parties tested Schallreuter's formula in their own carrier, and published negative results, only to have it turn out that their pseudocatalase was inactivated by their carrier. 

This history is why we recommend people perform their own tests of activity to ensure they are using an active product. It is cheap and relatively easy to do at home. Just place one drop of the pseudocatalase product on a clean, dry, surface. Cover one half of that drop with a drop of hydrogen peroxide. Wait 10 minutes, and look for the bubbles. We highly recommend people test our product next to other pseudocatalase products because we use a more active formulation (4-5 times more bubbles!)

Hope this helps!
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 Posted 1/14/2014 9:27:55 AM
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@Ladd - Where are you from? And may I ask what you used for your mix? If I order some I will have to do the same as I am from the UK...
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 Posted 1/14/2014 10:05:07 AM
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Pseudocatalase - would the carrier need to have EDTA in order for it to work?

Stefanovic - Rather than experimenting with shampoos, you may want to try conditioners. They seem to be milder.

Another seller of the powder states that  a Xanthan gum mix with distilled water would work, but it will start decomposing after three weeks. So you would only use a portion of the ingredients each time you make some. He also states that it does not need to be removed from the hair once it's in because it will not leave a greasy look. I cannot confirm it's effectiveness. I suppose one could do the H202  test on the product as Pseudocatalase suggests.
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 Posted 1/14/2014 10:25:56 AM
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I thought you said the baby shampoo was a good option?


Okay, so I mix the two powders with 9 ml of water and then I put a drop on a mirror for instance? And add a drop of shampoo. What do you mean with the shampoo should not react? How do I see that?
And what conditioners would be good?
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 Posted 1/14/2014 11:15:37 AM
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@stefanovic, if you mix up the pseudocatalase and then put a drop on a mirror and add a drop of shampoo, it should not bubble. It should look the same 10 minutes later as it does when you first place the drop. If it passes this test, place a small amount of the carrier plus pseudocatalase into a sealed container. Then, as a followup test, you want to test the carrier plus pseudocatalase the next morning (12+ hours later) with hydrogen peroxide to confirm the mix is still active. If so, you have a good carrier. Find a nice container that can be closed off when not using product, and put the carrier plus pseudocatalase in it. Then, test periodically.

We have not tested with conditioners, but the testing process would be the same. If the pseudocatalase bubbles with the carrier (in the absence of plain hydrogen peroxide), the carrier is no good.

Of course, the carrier plus pseudocatalase should bubble with hydrogen peroxide. 

@wisdom1st, there is no EDTA requirement in the carrier.

Water would be an inferior carrier. Water reaches a natural equilibrium with hydrogen peroxide, so even tap water has H2O2 at a concentration of 0.1-1 millimolar. The pseudocatalase will react with the existing hydrogen peroxide and liberate water and oxygen. The container gets opened and the oxygen escapes, and then hydrogen peroxide reaches a new equilibrium in the water. So, the pseudocatalase reacts again. The higher the concentration of the water, and the more air exchange the container has, the faster the pseudocatalase will degrade. If you have a thick carrier to slow diffusion, and keep it in a closed container, you can get many months of activity out of your pseudocatalase. 

Don't forget to test it periodically. It is cheap, easy, and it works. 


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This is why I wasn't keen on just purchasing the powder, I wouldn't know were to begin or have confidence that the  solution is active.

If the pre-mixed lotion was available in the UK I would already be using it. Although as wisdom1st states I have also read the other sellers info on eBay and he states that it can't be pre-mixed as it will not be active when the user buys it?? He is basically saying you have to do it when you receive the power. I also thought he was having a few digs regarding pseudocatalase's description I.e comparing. Did you pick up on this wisdom1st?
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so you should buy hydrogen peroxide and add a drop to the solution the next morning?
Any suggestions on good carriers so I don't have to test 50 shampoos before finding the right one. I'll take pics when I test it.
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Englishbull - Yes, Pseudocatalase and the other seller are marketing their products, and both have indicated that their own product is better. I would not expect it any other way. Pseudocatalase is in this forum answering every request asked of him, not to mention many of the questions he is asked are similar to others that have already been asked and answered. He hasn't complained once. He has been transparent. Although there are great minds in this forum, I don't believe there is anybody in here whose scientific expertise on this subject comes close to his. Why has the other seller not found this site? There are a slew of potential customers and beyond.  Could the other seller stand his ground like Pseudocatalase has?

Pseudocatalase has done plenty of research on the work of Dr. Karin Shallreuter. The mixing agent she may have used is Neribas cream. Keep in mind, this is not a shampoo/conditioner, it is for the skin. Shallreuter was working on vitiligo, not reversing gray hair. Pseudocatalse has gone that extra step and digested it all, and concluded that the product can be made into a shampoo because it only needs to  be on the scalp for five minutes before its washed out. The reaction time is complete by then.  That is his secret, and it's what makes his product unique. He would be hurting himself by posting the mixing agent on this site. The only thing I don't get is why he only ships the finished product in the U.S.  Obviously, he has his reasons.  I think he is trying to help the people across the water, but he certainly is not going to mention his mixing agent. 

He is saying that many mixing agents (shampoos/conditioners) will react with the powder. This is not good. It means the product is ineffective. He is saying to get several shampoo/conditioner samples and mix a small amount of each with a very small amount of the powder. This way you are not wasting it all if/when it reacts. It will bubble if there is a reaction. If there are no bubbles within 10 minutes, then put the now mixed sample into an air tight container and let it sit over night. There is still one more test to go. Now that you have a potential effective product, you must now do the hydrogen peroxide test.  This is where you take a drop of that sample that did not react when it was mixed, and put a drop of hydrogen peroxide on top. If it starts to bubble quickly, then the product you made is effective. Now you can use the carrier (shampoo/conditioner) agent to make a larger amount.  But since you would still be in a testing stage, perform the hydrogen peroxide test often until you are confident that the product is a working pseudocatalase.  I hope this helps.
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