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 Posted 12/21/2013 9:41:56 PM
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i guess 1% difference is can not be observed by human eye.
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 Posted 12/23/2013 1:40:12 PM
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Hello stefanovic,

I believe the consensus of those on this forum would probably recommend getting your pseudocatalase from our forum member who goes by the same name (Pseudocatalase).  He's been selling his product on ebay through the link below.  This is the stuff that wisdom1st is currently using, and I'm about to try it also.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pseudocatalase-PC-KUS-Shampoo-Lotion-Gray-Hair-Vitiligo-Treatment/121171845925?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2753066442532761340%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121187190862%26

I'm also through my last bottle of depo-melanin.  I still think I may have had a small amount of reversal, but I can't say it's conclusive, and it's been almost 6 months (I have short hair so it didn't take much).

Now I'm hoping to find a cheap UVB wand.
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 Posted 12/24/2013 1:10:15 AM
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Unfortunately, it doesn't ship to my country Belgium. I've noticed the reviews are mixed and I promised myself not to spend much money on things that will probably not work but if someone can give me good advice  for a decent price, I'd be open to that.

No one in my family had grey hair before the age of 40. I'm almost a decade younger.

I also contacted l'oreal and the bradford team. L'oreal just replied: there's no treatment available at this point. When I asked them: will it be 2015? No reply.

The Bradford team just said: once we have news, we'll update. They couldnt give me the right timing.


I probably need an eyelash transplant and they take hair from the back of the scalp. That's where I have no greys yet, I just dont want to get that hair to go grey after a few years.
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 Posted 12/26/2013 12:21:05 PM
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@pseudocatalase , When you ship your lotion , how fresh is it ?

I tested your lotion yesterday after 7-8 weeks, and I did notice a significant drop in the bubbles coming out compared to my first test. 

I just placed a second order for a new lotion bottle. 

update on results:
I am applying the lotion to my eyelash which turned white bcz of vitilito 10 years ago.
after 7 weeks of using pseudocatalase (from the ebay guy), I do notice an improvement of appearance. some of the dark lashes on the lower eyelid look healthier and thicker. However, I cannot for sure tell if any of these dark hairs are new. I do also see two small lashes coming out that are dark but I cannot tell for sure if those are replacing old white or dark lashes that fell out. Also, the improvement of appearance come in part due to darkening of the eyelid itself. 

Note, that I am using a dermaband narrow band UV device about 2x a week. I just last week increased the exposure from 2-3 minutes to 5 minutes. 

All in All , I cannot say I am impressed, however I still feel comfortable continuing the investment and buying a second bottle. 

@pseudocatalase , one more question,
If I was to buy your powder and cost is not an issue, what would be the ultimate carrier ? .... would some skin oils like emu oil work well ?
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 Posted 12/27/2013 10:49:14 AM
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@truth and beauty - Put a 990 grains of salt on a plate and then add 10 grains of pepper. Most people would see it as a pile of salt. You'd have to look closely to find the pepper. The whole idea of this reversal is not about me finding the pepper, it's about others noticing the pepper. So you are right when you say nobody will notice. And that's why I say the pseudo-catalase has not reached a success point as of yet. It's been 11 weeks, and the reversal in its entirety has been less than 1%. 

Mix on a plate 500 grains of salt, and 500 grains of pepper. Take 10 of the grains of salt away and replace with 10 grains of pepper. Not only would the pile look the same, but even on close observation, you could not accurately tell if there were more pepper than salt.  

Because I had only salt in certain areas is why I can see the new found pepper. I will be ordering another bottle soon, and I hope to see a better return than on the first bottle.
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 Posted 12/29/2013 2:27:38 AM
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@Romi, the pseudocatalase in the lotion is fresh mixed within a day of shipping. We have not noted any degradation in 3 months time, but it is important to control the ratio of lotion and H2O2 in the test. Please keep the lid tightly fastened when not in use. 
  
The ultimate carrier? Neribas cream was used by Schallreuter (not available USA). All our efforts were to find creams/lotions/shampoos that were not reactive to pseudocatalase. They are definitely in the minority. We still feel someone using the lotion will get a far better return buying the lotion than the powder and mixing their own lotion. More times than not people using the powder will not place it in an unreactive carrier, and store it in an airtight container. Failure to do so will void the pseudocatalase, and we want people to get active pseudocatalase. Anything less is bad for treatment, and bad for business. 
  
The "best" thing you can do is to set up to perform regular H2O2 disproportionation tests to make sure your product is working properly. Then you will know which vendors are being honest. The same is also true if you want to switch to powder and choose your own carrier. Test lots of carriers to make sure you find one that is unreactive. Congratulations on your eyelash - you are using virtually the same vitiligo treatment as one of us. It is progressive, if you get 100% in less than a year you will be in the minority. But, more than 50% repigmentation in 6 months happens fairly often. 

@wisdom1st, your experiences are not abnormal. If you don't like the results, please don't continue treatment. Schallreuter used to beg and plead people to continue treatments (for vitiligo), because results at 3-4 months were modest. However, they build cumulatively from there and reach 100% in most people with narrowband UV and continued pseudocatalase treatment for many more months. The ultimate long-term results for gray hair use are not as well described, as yet. But most people can notice the results, as you do, in 3-4 months and one bottle. 
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 Posted 12/29/2013 8:17:55 AM
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@Pseudocatalase: is there a possibility to order the stuff when you're living in Europe? Could you also elaborate on degradation? If it would turn out to work for me, I'd like to stock up so then it should be better to prepare it myself if that's possible.

I've looked at photos taken about three years ago and I had no greys yet. Is this something that works better on people having gone grey recently.
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 Posted 12/29/2013 2:36:22 PM
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@stefanovic, pseudocatalase, once mixed, is a poor bet for stocking up. You can order our powder on eBay, it will last indefinitely.  It comes with all you need to mix it up, and instructions on how to do so. We do not know if recent gray, or long-term gray are more responsive at this point. There is a link to our eBay listings about 10 posts up in this thread. 

Pseudocatalase turns hydrogen peroxide in the skin into water and oxygen. It also reacts with a wide variety of other bonds (mostly hydroxyl bonds), and once it does it will no longer work on hydrogen peroxide. If it is "degraded", then it has already reacted with something and will not work on hydrogen peroxide. We recommend people find a smooth, clean, surface and place one drop of their pseudocatalase containing product on that surface, and then cover half of that drop with a drop of hydrogen peroxide. Wait no more than 10 minutes, and the bubbles from the oxygen liberated from the hydrogen peroxide should be obvious. If not, you do not have an active pseudocatalase product. This test can be done by virtually anyone with no danger whatsoever, and it is a valid test of the activity of your product. 
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 Posted 12/30/2013 2:12:52 AM
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Thank you so much for the extra info, Pseudocatalase.

What would be the cost for let's say 3-4 months if you order all the tools? Is it legal to transport by airplane when you go on holidays for instance?
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 Posted 12/30/2013 7:03:55 AM
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Pseudocatalase I have spoken to you before, I would be interested in ordering some to the UK, I know you told me you don't ship to the uk, but if anything changes on this stance please let me know. I don't want just the powder alone as I wouldn't trust myself and wouldn't know we're to start anyway.

Stefanovic - I am younger than you, 29, and started going gray around 23!!! My case is genetic as my dad was fully gray aged 30!!

Not much you can do when you are dealt them cards!!

I'm surprised nobody commented on Ladds finding of the spam Facebook page for Depo, that is an unbelievable find I clicked on it, it is cringe worthy! And pretty much sums that one up, don't buy!!
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