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 Posted 8/23/2013 7:02:49 AM
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It's probably a permissions thing since I don't get the image icon when I use my computer either.  

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To Jcoireangus,

One of Life Extension's staff checked the reply pane on an ipad and the image icon appears for him.  It is also appearing for me as i type.  Am sorry that you don't see it, and the only thing that can be suggested would be if you have a web page, it would be permissible to direct people there at this point.

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 Posted 8/23/2013 2:13:48 PM
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New development:

Viaguard has removed the depo-melanin page associated with my review. There is a different page with only one review. 

To me, this is bad news, another blow to the credibility of depo-melanin. Why on earth would they take it down except to lose all the negative reviews?

As for me, I've been applying the product now for 29 days. 

No grey hair with pigmented roots. 
I "may" have a few more pigmented hairs but really can't be sure. 

I'm nearly finished with the first of two bottles. 

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 Posted 8/23/2013 2:46:20 PM
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Not sure how u can use nearly two bottles in 29 days.
Instructions call for only a few drops
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 Posted 8/23/2013 8:39:10 PM
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I said I'd nearly finished the FIRST of 2 bottles. I'd say each bottle is good for about 6 weeks based on how I apply it.

I think I'm probably using 2 ml each day, on average. (40 drops)

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Not sure how u can use nearly two bottles in 29 days.
Instructions call for only a few drops
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Hey everyone - I'm new in the forum but have been an LEF customer for over 15 years. As I'm currently testing the depo-melanin product Viaguard I have been corresponding a bit with Angus who has ordered me to report here. Let me kick things off with a question. The new/updated product description suggests the following:

"To maximize the benefits of Depo-Melanin it should be used in conjunction with UVB phototherapy. A system such as the Viaguard UVB system is clinically designed for this purpose. It delivers UVB rays at the required 3141 nanometers wavelength, has a timer, and is of professional quality but easy to use at home. 2 minutes of exposure on affected areas, 3 times a week, is a good starting point. Hold the light about 7-10 inches from the skin initially, and this distance can be decreased about an inch a week until down to 2 inches. Follow the instructions that come with the UVB lamp."

Now I moved from L.A. to Spain a year ago and we've got quite a bit of sun in these parts. So I wonder if i can skip the UVB lamp and instead just hold my head into the sun for a few minutes per day. I could send an email out to Viaguard but they have repeatedly ignored my inquiries - thus this question goes out to you guys. Does anyone own this UVB system and how much UVB radiation is being produced in those 2 minutes per day?

In general however I'm tying to stay out of the sun as much as possible (fair skin). Is the UVB radiation necessary? I know that Karin Schallreuter has used UVB radiation in conjunction with her pseudocatalase, so i would probably think that it is would be necessary. 

BTW, as I speak German I sent Mrs. Schallreuter an inquiry early on before I found the Viaguard product. She kindly responded saying that she's currently not developing any product for graying hair. But she also didn't say or suggest that it wouldn't work ;-)

Finally, I'm about four weeks in my treatment - I'm using it on the sides of my head which is almost all gray at this point. I have extremely sensitive skin but am happy to report that I have not experienced any negative side effects. There was a bit of a tingle in the first few days but that went away. No change in the amount of white hair yet - however it's only been four weeks. However, I'm a bit worried about the UVB part - so any input here would be valuable. 

Cheers,

Michael from the lovely Valencia, Spain
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 Posted 8/24/2013 5:48:57 AM
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Welcome to the Forums, Michael!

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Welcome Michael!  I don't know if you noticed my review on Amazon has been orphaned since the product listing has been replaced...

Like you, I'm roughly four weeks in and also like you, I live in a sunny Mediterranean climate. I also forgo the UV lamp for the California sun. 

My cynical side says that the need for the UV lamp is a short term effort by the company to maximize profits before being exposed fully as perpetuators of a sham.  So I'm hoping for the best using just the sun. 

I expect that if this product works at all, I should eventually see some undeniable change. If I do, then I might consider purchasing the UV lamp. But I've yet to see any changes that I can be certain are real. 

Here's hoping for the best. There are several of us trying the product out and reporting here. 

Jim from lovely Los Angeles, California. 

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... and anyway, the company claims that the product is developed to work without exposure to sunlight or any other kind of phototherapy
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SenorGringo - I asked the same question and received an email back from the President of Viagard on July 1st. here is his response

Hi,
the product does not need uvb activation, but functions more rapidly with  a few weekly  hours of  sunlight exposure , or uvb light for a few minutes. The results with the product have been good
let us know.

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Harvey Tenenbaum
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It does not surprise me that Dr. Shallreuter conveyed that she is not working on any solutions for graying hair. A product called PC-KUS has already been developed for vitiligo patients. and it is believed by Dr. Gerald Weismann, editor-in-chief of FASEB journal, that the product will reverse the graying process.  It has been noted that the product has restored color in eyelashes where pigmentation has been lost. Her team focuses on skin diseases.  Back in 2009, they noted that hair turns gray because it is bleached from the inside out due to hydrogen peroxide buildup. They may have stumbled upon this while they were trying to get answers for their vitiligo research.  Afterall, they both have something in common, loss of pigmentation.  Any improvements to this product will be done with the interest of ridding people of vitilgo, not graying hair. She is a scientist, and probably can't give a hoot about cosmetology.  Even though vitiligo is cosmetic, she believes the psychological effects are devastating on these victims, and I agree.  She has gained the world's interest, and the entrepreneurs, marketeers, and greedy SOB's are watching. Secrets this big cannot be kept long.  If there truly is a cure, it shall succumb to world demand.  

Assuming Viagard's product contains what they claim, and even if this depo-melanin is ineffective, it is a step in the right direction. Somebody is distributing a formula that is not oral, and is not a home-made remedy like putting coconut oil in your hair. It's a topical product containing chemicals (pseudo-catalase), and the word is out there.  There are probably several companies trying to develop a product to market right now.  Think of 'Go Away Gray', and all the other companies that followed with a pill to reverse the graying process. Of course, we know these pills are ineffective in most cases. But that is not necessarily the case with a topical formula, because we know PC-KUS exists, and the world knows it works!  Again, a secret that big cannot be contained when demand is beyond overwhelming. 'Jurassic Park', "Life will find a way" is a good analogy to what I am talking about. If not Depo-Melanin, then the next one.  If not that one, then the one after that. And at some point, BINGO! 
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Welcome Michael!  I don't know if you noticed my review on Amazon has been orphaned since the product listing has been replaced...

Like you, I'm roughly four weeks in and also like you, I live in a sunny Mediterranean climate. I also forgo the UV lamp for the California sun. 

My cynical side says that the need for the UV lamp is a short term effort by the company to maximize profits before being exposed fully as perpetuators of a sham.  So I'm hoping for the best using just the sun. 

I expect that if this product works at all, I should eventually see some undeniable change. If I do, then I might consider purchasing the UV lamp. But I've yet to see any changes that I can be certain are real. 

Here's hoping for the best. There are several of us trying the product out and reporting here. 

Jim from lovely Los Angeles, California. 


Not surprised you're from there - we Los Angelinos are so vain after all! ;-) I lived in the Hollywood Hills up Laurel Cyn until early last year. Had a good life there but it was time for a change. 

I think if you stick your head out of the window for 5 minutes you probably get the same amount of exposure in Los Angeles. No need to buy that lamp.

I'm not trying to be too cynical about it. What's important to me is that there are no major side effects as I have sensitive skin. And I don't want to lose any hair of course. But so far so good.

I think we are all will soon approach the magic six week threshold and then it'll be time to render final judgment. So far nothing yet but I haven't been through the full cycle yet. I'll give it another month and then report back.
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