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 Posted 4/22/2014 7:17:58 AM
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@stefanovic

I did.

It isn't necessary to mix PC and melitane in the same solution (you could continue to use the PC shampoo and just use a melitane/neribas mix once a day after shampooing). <-Probably a better route. You could also use a PC lotion, rinse it out, and then put on a melitane solution.

If a PC/Melitane mix is insisted upon then the 5 minutes doesn't matter. You don't have to remove the lotion after 5 minutes.

I don't know what is more practical than using a tested, water based, and non irritant solution.
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 Posted 4/22/2014 11:10:03 AM
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@ Stefanovic My Laser helmet is one made by OMG It is his helmet with the most coverage, for a Norwood six pattern. If i remember right, it has 150 plus laser lights.

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 Posted 4/22/2014 11:10:05 AM
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Thanks a lot.

I don't have any experiences with neribas. I currently use the PC with dermolin shampoo. I wonder if the neribas-melitane combo is practical to use ( right before going to bed for instance)

PS: on the internet you'll really find many reports of people having used LLLT for hair loss and they all reported a great reduction in greys as it increases catalase. It is kinda expensive though but interesting.
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 Posted 4/22/2014 12:02:02 PM
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@ Stefanovic: I am still finishing off My last bottle of Depo. I have just recently purchased the Shampoo, the cream and the powder from PC and plan to trial these. I'm interested if these work better than Depo. The shampoo would be convenient, if it works.

I have no experience with Melitane. My approach to Melitane is to trial MSH 2 Pro nasal spray which I purchase a few weeks ago. If anything significant happens I'll post. 
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 Posted 4/22/2014 12:26:13 PM
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@stefanovic

How is neribas or something like it any less practical than Altris gel?

Lotion leaves a mild residue on the hair but it also dries quickly if left on. It also comes out easily with water. You could take a wet paper towel and wipe away a lot of whatever got caught in the hair. Next time you shower do a test run with lotion to see how it works. Break each section of your head into quarters and go under the hair with your fingertips. Most will rub into the scalp.
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 Posted 4/22/2014 12:30:12 PM
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@beefster: I'm experienced with both melanotan injectables and the nasal spray. I can tell you the melanotan nasal spray is haox. I've tried the highest dosages with zero success. Compare the costs of injectables ( you can have a vial for around 10 dollars these days) and nasal sprays and you'll see that vendors only want to approach people being scared of SQ injections.
At least I think that spray is based on melanotan and not on melitane. They both have an impact on MSH but melitane should be applied topically.

Did you make that helmet yourself? ( I am not technically skilled and would never ever do that) but the theory on catalase sounds very realistic. Hopefully we can also elaborate on that one.
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 Posted 4/23/2014 8:47:56 AM
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I wonder if  this liquid Kudzu glycerine mix could be aplied topicaly to prevent gray hair :

http://www.iherb.com/product-reviews/eclectic-institute-kudzu-glycerite-alcohol-free-2-fl-oz-60-ml/12950/?p=1

The korean study was made with a ethanol kudzu extract spray. Could it work also mixed with glycerine ?

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 Posted 4/25/2014 6:29:58 AM
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I've been lurking around this forum since it was about 32 pages old when I first heard about the PC-KUS report around this time last year.

I'm not very grey - a bit on the sides and some on my chin - but I do have vitiligo, mostly on my face & hands.  Typically, I stay out of the sun and because I'm pale enough, I hardly notice it.  But, after a recent family vacation, I got some color and it's much worse than I remember. 

I've had some luck with Protopic, but hate the stuff & the potential side effects.  I was thinking about trying the PCKUS products on eBay.  There are two - one is by the Pseudocatalase guy here and the other is the Einstein one.  (Actually, there seems to be a third, but the posting has no photos and seems a bit dodgy to me.)

I was wondering if anybody has had much luck with either one, how they bought it (powder vs cream vs ?).

As a side note, I'd like to see how this affects the grey hair on my chin (since it's in the vitiligo region).  I'm going to try and keep a log of it - it would be interesting to see how skin vs hair progresses (if in fact they progress at all). 
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 Posted 4/25/2014 6:42:58 AM
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 Posted 4/25/2014 6:47:41 AM
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BTW - here's a shot of my hand and one of my cheek.

http://postimg.org/image/osl2jsrvv/    <-- hand - small lesions on base of my fingers, slowly spreading
http://postimg.org/image/s0u5al3jf/   <-- face - most of my cheeks & chin are pale (vit) & grey hair on chin

Not to turn this into a vitiligo forum by any means - I imagine anything that is helpful to grey hair theoretically may help with vitiligo.
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