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 Posted 7/31/2014 3:18:49 PM
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Hello Oscar,

You must have ESP because I'm going through my own dental issue.

I have an 8 year old root canal that is now infected. This absessed tooth isnt causing me pain yet. Root canals are just ground for bacteria. It is very difficult to excavate the root canal completely and remove all the infection. I wish I would have been more informed about it then as I am now.

Interestingly I just noticed a sudden attack on my joints. My hands and one knee are in pain to the point where I can't open a jar, or walk without limping.  It's like one day I go from healthy to feeling like I'm 90 years old!  I'm now experiencing tinnitus on the same side as the absessed tooth.

Doing some reaearch the bacteria in an absessed tooth can travel systemically and attack the joints. I feel confident this is what is causing my joint issues.  

Often a root canal infection can be chronic low-grade, undetectable by xrays. So one is slowly poisoning oneself, causing sysmptoms that doctors can only claim as idiopathic because they don't know any infection exists. 

If you CARE about living a long DISEASE FREE life, dental health, is an important topic.  I second the motion to have a dental health section.

Right now I'm on every natural, anti inflammatory supplement I can think of plus Advil. Also every joint supplement compound I can think of..College and glucosamine, etc.  That has taken away about 99% of the pain and restored most range of motion.

The dentist wants to re-drill through the crown and re-do the root canal.  What? And just have another infection? I'm thinking I should just have the tooth pulled. Luckily it's in the back of the mouth, where it can't be seen.

Does anybody know if implants can get infected like a root canal can?  I am considering the latest inplant technology to replace the tooth.

-Tom


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DDye (7/30/2014)
You are welcome to start a thread under Other Health Conditions.

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Dear DDye, Starting a new thread is NOT the same as having a section of the forum devoted to: TEETH CARE and Denistry or some better name for said section. This would allow for NEW postings from people who wish to discuss the many aspects of teeth care.
    This is a problem we all have to deal with and there are MANY aspects and issues. Oral hygene, all the options available for teeth repair and such. There is not one problem or issue but many said issues. Frankly, I am somewhat surprised such a section to this forum does not already exist.   ...Oscar


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Can anyone provide proof/real studies that show that root canals are bad for one's health if done properly (without linking to a Mercola website)?

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International Endodontic Journal 33(1):1 (2000)

Root canal treatment and general health: a review of the literature.

C A Murray and W P Saunders

REVIEW: 

The focal infection theory was prominent in the medical literature during the early 1900s and curtailed the progress of endodontics. 

This theory proposed that microorganisms, or their toxins, arising from a focus of circumscribed infection within a tissue could disseminate systemically, resulting in the initiation or exacerbation of systemic illness or the damage of a distant tissue site. 

For example, during the focal infection era rheumatoid arthritis (RA) was identified as having a close relationship with dental health. The theory was eventually discredited because there was only anecdotal evidence to support its claims and few scientifically controlled studies. 

There has been a renewed interest in the influence that foci of infection within the oral tissues may have on general health. Some current research suggests a possible relationship between dental health and cardiovascular disease and published case reports have cited dental sources as causes for several systemic illnesses. 

Improved laboratory procedures employing sophisticated molecular biological techniques and enhanced culturing techniques have allowed researchers to confirm that bacteria recovered from the peripheral blood during root canal treatment originated in the root canal. 

It has been suggested that the bacteraemia, or the associated bacterial endotoxins, subsequent to root canal treatment, may cause potential systemic complications. Further research is required, however, using current sampling and laboratory methods from scientifically controlled population groups to determine if a significant relationship between general health and periradicular infection exists.

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International Endodontic Journal 30(5):297 (1997)

Influence of infection at the time of root filling on the outcome of endodontic treatment of teeth with apical periodontitis.

U Sjögren, D Figdor, and G Sundqvist, Faculty of Odontology, Umeå University, Sweden.

This study investigated the role of infection on the prognosis of endodontic therapy by following-up teeth that had had their canals cleaned and obturated during a single appointment. 

The root canals of 55 single-rooted teeth with apical periodontitis were thoroughly instrumented and irrigated with sodium hypochlorite solution. Using advanced anaerobic bacteriological techniques, post-instrumentation samples were taken and the teeth were then root-filled during the same appointment. 

All teeth were initially infected; after instrumentation low numbers of bacteria were detected in 22 of 55 root canals. Periapical healing was followed-up for 5 years. Complete periapical healing occurred in 94% of cases that yielded a negative culture. 

Where the samples were positive prior to root filling, the success rate of treatment was just 68%--a statistically significant difference. 

Further investigation of three failures revealed the presence of Actinomyces species in each case; no other specific bacteria were implicated in failure cases. 

These findings emphasize the importance of completely eliminating bacteria from the root canal system before obturation. This objective cannot be reliably achieved in a one-visit treatment because it is not possible to eradicate all infection from the root canal without the support of an inter-appointment antimicrobial dressing.

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The focal infection theory as it applies to endodontics has not undergone formal clinical studies.  Most of the information is anecdotal.  

However, that said, it hasn't been that long since science discovered that flossing, and oral bacteria clearance, has a significant impact on heart disease. 

To my knowledge there is no way to tell if a newly completed root canal is infected unless that root canal is open again and checked. X-rays will not find a low-grade infection.

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Tom. (7/31/2014)
Hello Oscar,

You must have ESP because I'm going through my own dental issue.

I have an 8 year old root canal that is now infected. This absessed tooth isnt causing me pain yet. Root canals are just ground for bacteria. It is very difficult to excavate the root canal completely and remove all the infection. I wish I would have been more informed about it then as I am now.

Interestingly I just noticed a sudden attack on my joints. My hands and one knee are in pain to the point where I can't open a jar, or walk without limping.  It's like one day I go from healthy to feeling like I'm 90 years old!  I'm now experiencing tinnitus on the same side as the absessed tooth.

Doing some reaearch the bacteria in an absessed tooth can travel systemically and attack the joints. I feel confident this is what is causing my joint issues.  

Often a root canal infection can be chronic low-grade, undetectable by xrays. So one is slowly poisoning oneself, causing sysmptoms that doctors can only claim as idiopathic because they don't know any infection exists. 

If you CARE about living a long DISEASE FREE life, dental health, is an important topic.  I second the motion to have a dental health section.

Right now I'm on every natural, anti inflammatory supplement I can think of plus Advil. Also every joint supplement compound I can think of..College and glucosamine, etc.  That has taken away about 99% of the pain and restored most range of motion.

The dentist wants to re-drill through the crown and re-do the root canal.  What? And just have another infection? I'm thinking I should just have the tooth pulled. Luckily it's in the back of the mouth, where it can't be seen.

Does anybody know if implants can get infected like a root canal can?  I am considering the latest inplant technology to replace the tooth.

-Tom


Hi Tom, Having another root canal or canals done is one of the issues I am now dealing with. The dentist I am seeing told me he will set up an appointment with " a dental surgeon " to have this done. In the past the dentists I saw did root canals themselves. And like you, it is one of the back molars so I am thinking just have the tooth extracted and be done with it. I am thinking this is the way to go with this tooth. And like you I do NOT feel pain at that tooth. So it is weird. It also takes a month to even get an appointment.
   And like I said: If you want to get rich become a dentist. They charge for every " procedure " now days and really know how to sock it to you when billing you. Boy brush your teeth often and floss. They do have these flossing devices that make flossing much easier. Oh well,   ...Oscar
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Tom, I have two root canal teeth with metal crowns.  I have been reading the same news related to root canals.  My dentist is a biosafe dentist, I posted his web address in my previous post, and he is recommending that I have the two teeth pulled and have implants put in place.  If you want to get away from having metal put in your mouth (which is advisable), they make porcelain implants, as well as porcelain crowns.  He said the bone and gums knit much better to porcelain as opposed to metal, since they are more biocompatible.  Plus, he has used them for ten years with no problems in terms of durability, etc. compared to metal.  Might be something you would want to check into.  My goal is to get all metal out of my mouth along with the root canals. 
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Oscar:

You're right on. Dental work is expensive.

I brush twice a day, floss once a day, Wash my mouth with Listerine after every meal. As a preventative I see the hygienist to have my teeth cleaned every 3 months.

One must be diligent to keep the pesky gremlins away, and keep one's money where it belongs -- In one's wallet!

-Tom


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