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Why do you want to extend your life?
Why do you want to extend your life?

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 Posted 6/21/2014 3:00:53 AM
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DDye (6/20/2014)
Kelton, would the Navajo tradition make sense when one considers survival of the tribe vs the individual?  Old people could be perceived as a burden.


Dear DDye, As is often the case, at least for me, you nailed it, got it right. I was aware of this tradition among a number of American Indian groups. Eskimos included. It makes sense to me. When you become too much of a burden for your tribe it is time to leave this " Vale of Tears ". It can be done with dignity. To be or not to be and all that. And there are many who live in constant pain for whatever reason. I am still with the " TO BE " crowd but can forsee the time when that will change and have no desire to burden the people I care about with a pointless existence.   ...Oscar
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 Posted 6/21/2014 5:02:59 AM
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Am reminded of this great scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwgnDn8ez9g

However, our society has evolved to place more value on individual lives. A little burden is ok with me . . . OTOH it is my view that anyone who finds living unbearable should have the right to end their suffering.
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 Posted 6/21/2014 5:17:44 AM
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Life is good why not live longer  xnlife 

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 Posted 6/21/2014 7:15:53 AM
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xnlife (6/21/2014)
Life is good why not live longer  xnlife 


Life is very often NOT good for many people. Especially as you grow old. " The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune " do take an ever increasing toll on body and soul as time passes by. People you love grow old and die. Your body deteriorates in every way. It is a painful reality we all have to live with. The price of or for life is death, one way or another, sooner or later. Quite frankly, at 65, I wish I was never born. Those slings and arrows have taken their toll on me.   ...Oscar
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 Posted 6/21/2014 8:52:35 AM
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This may sound odd, but curiosity about the future is my strongest motivator to live long...

I want the answers to what is really causing the autism epidemic, obesity epidemic, etc.  Will a new superbug due to overuse of antibiotics or overpopulation cause another massive plague?  Will the middle class continue into extinction resulting in a world of Lords and Serfs?  Will world war III occur soon?  

Silly I guess, but my deathbed regret will be not living to learn these answers.  
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 Posted 6/21/2014 10:21:40 AM
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William Shakespeare is pretty good on all this with his " To be or not to be ". But I say George Jones beats him by a country mile with his lyrics to his song:  " These days one barely gets by". The lyrics are great but you have to hear GJ sing it to really appreciate the song.   ...Oscar
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Watching a sick and dying loved one hobble off into the sunset to eventually die alone or get consumed by wild animal would be heart-wrenchingly painful for me. I could never do that. It even pains me to think about it.

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 Posted 6/23/2014 1:33:56 AM
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synesthesia (6/21/2014)
This may sound odd, but curiosity about the future is my strongest motivator to live long...

I want the answers to what is really causing the autism epidemic, obesity epidemic, etc.  Will a new superbug due to overuse of antibiotics or overpopulation cause another massive plague?  Will the middle class continue into extinction resulting in a world of Lords and Serfs?  Will world war III occur soon?  

Silly I guess, but my deathbed regret will be not living to learn these answers.  


NOT so silly, This curiosity you discuss is one of the few things I have left that keep me going. This rapidly changing world is surely full of surprises if not good at least interesting.   ...Oscar
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 Posted 7/23/2014 6:42:09 AM
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I had to double-check on my anecdote about this tradition of Navajo indians "going away to die" with a Navajo friend before making any more comments about it.  It's not really a tradition per se, and this practice was the exception more than the norm. The fact is that among the Navajo people, it is greatly frowned upon, even taboo to speak of death and dying, speaking of the subject invokes superstitions.  Death is something children are taught to not even ask question about.  Your own impending death even in the face of grave terminal illness is a subject to avoid.  In the face of such a cultural roadblock, it seems some Navajos would simply rather go away quietly.   


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Had heard that Tony Hillerman mentioned this in his books: that one does not speak of the dead.
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