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Spread to lymph glands and possibly brain.  Under went emergency chemo, 3 days and just had another round.  Can anyone give an estimate of how much time my friend can expect before he passes.  I know it will depend on many factors but would like to have the worst case odds.  He is 56, smoked for many of those years and is a painter by trade.  He has always been very active and in good health until now.   

With that out of the way, and knowing there are cures for cancer but no profit in that,, what foods will stop it, reverse it, and take it out of my good friend?  Before he was diagnosed, I heard a doctor on the TBN talk about foods that can do all that I am asking about but I don't remember his name or the foods he said would do the trick.  I anyone here heard the man and knows his name or knows the foods, please list them for me and join me in prayer for my friend.  Thank You for your time. 
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Welcometo the forum JQ. This is truly a devastating period of your life. I know so well the feelings of powerlessness and frustration that you will be going thru as I lost my husband to the big C two and a half years ago. Alex was a gifted osteopath and I am a clinical nutritionist and still we couldn't save him although he lived some 8 years after 'the lump' was noticed in his neck. 

JQ, no one can say how long you friend might have on this earth. So many factors are individual. Genetics, previous quality of life, the drugs your friend is on. The will to live may or may not play a part, and prayer may or may not also play a part.  

My Alex went so very unexpectedly with a massive hemorrhage. For me, finally, I was able to be grateful he went this way, although I will always say it was 20 years too soon. He actually saw patients the whole week and the day he died. No lying helplessly in bed waiting for death for him. If he could or would have said, he worked with his passion until the day he died.

I would always recommend some one work towards the best quality of life they can in any situation.

Although it is relatively easy for me to say, remove all chemicals and toxins and eat loads of organic fresh fruits and vegetables, if a person’s cancer is so advanced as your friends' seems to be, I would be inclined to suggest, let the patient have what they want in order to give them as much comfort and pleasure at this time of life. If this means a couple of glasses of wine every day so be it.

You could indeed supplement the diet with raw whole fruit and vegetable organic smoothies, made with coconut cream/milk. Home made chicken soup (organic if you can) made with lots of parsley and celery. 

The problem arising from these suggestions is that unless the food is organic you may well be pumping even more chemicals and residue pesticides into the body.

You will probably see that your friend will lose a great deal of weight. In layman's terms this is the cancer destroying the body. A high calorie diet will be the best, although you will find the patient actually won't want to eat as much as they use to.

Adding coconut cream to as much food as possible has two benefits. It is antimicrobial and is high in calories.  Even if your friend has not started to lose weight I would add it now as a small insurance.  Add to smoothies and soups and any deserts you can.

Chicken soup – you can blend this up so that there is a high proportion of protein in the meal.  Adding coconut cream for additional liquid which is also an excellent quality fat and gives a dose of natural antimicrobial support is a bonus.

Alex had boxes and boxes and boxes of information on cancer cures. And he went to Mexico and Sydney for treatment to no avail. Did it extend his life? We will never know. The stress of raising the money and travelling was devastating and caused a whole another layer of stress.  In my eyes there is no one thing as a cancer cure. There may be a multiple of tweaks and changes to a lifestyle that can enhance the probability of living a decent life for a few + years. 

You are no doubt asking what supplements? LEF has a protocol for supporting the immune system.  In many ways it depends how much money you can spend. I would most definitely look at LEF's liver support asap.  

Wishing you both all the best.

Lynette 



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jq, did you peruse this information http://www.lef.org/protocols/cancer/lung_cancer_01.htm ?

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Spread to lymph glands and possibly brain.  Under went emergency chemo, 3 days and just had another round.  Can anyone give an estimate of how much time my friend can expect before he passes.  I know it will depend on many factors but would like to have the worst case odds.  He is 56, smoked for many of those years and is a painter by trade.  He has always been very active and in good health until now.   

With that out of the way, and knowing there are cures for cancer but no profit in that,, what foods will stop it, reverse it, and take it out of my good friend?  Before he was diagnosed, I heard a doctor on the TBN talk about foods that can do all that I am asking about but I don't remember his name or the foods he said would do the trick.  I anyone here heard the man and knows his name or knows the foods, please list them for me and join me in prayer for my friend.  Thank You for your time. 


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You may wish to consider Dr. Denham Harman`s research into coping with the destructive effects of exposure to radiation. BHT was by far the BEST compound he found as discussed here:

     http://hplusmagazine.com/2009/07/14/leaders-modern-gerontology-denham-harman-takes-free-radicals/

It is a short read. Here is a short extract from that report:

       In 1968, Harman conducted a dietary lifespan study feeding the food preservative BHT to rodents. It increased their lifespans 45% longer than average and exceeded their maximum species lifespan, the first experiment to demonstrate this can be done with antioxidants. This increase in maximum species lifespan came close to results from calorie restriction experiments that achieved 50% lifespan increases.

     But if you read this short report you will see that Radiation Damage and aging are related. It seems to me BHT may be the only real chance your friend has for recovery. And frankly at this time what has your friend have to lose by giving BHT a try ? Because this cancer is no longer localized he needs something that will have a strong positive effect on all cells and tissues. He has tried the conventional chemotherapy and is dying. BHT is very good at deactivating free radicals including reactive oxygen species. BHT`s ability to deactivate cancer producing compounds is documented in this WHO [ World Health Organization ] report:
     http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v05je23.htm

You need to scroll down to: " Special Studies on the Protective Effect in vivo " to learn about that from the link I provided above.
   Obviously I can not guarantee anything. But his doctors at this time have NOTHING to offer him. Just maybe BHT can provide the means for your friend`s body to get this cancer under control and hopefully resolved.
   As a person who has been using BHT since 1997 I would recommend he start out with the 250mg capsules of BHT offered here:     https://www.lifelinknet.com/siteResources/Products/BHT.asp

This company believes in BHT as I do. I would recommend no more than 250mg of BHT taken once a day with water on an empty stomach for at least one week. If and only if he tolerates that dosage well go to two separate doses of 250mg of BHT a day. If adverse effects are experienced go back to one 250mg of BHT per day. What BHT can prevent it can often cure. You asked for help and suggestions. That is mine.    ...Oscar 
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I strongly suggest high dose (100 g/day) of intravenous vitamin C by a competent orthomolecular physician.  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1405876/
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It's way too late to counteract cancer-causing compounds. I haven't done careful research in this area, but if you Google "butylated hydroxytoluene" along with tumor or cancer, you will see a variety of scary studies that suggest that BHT can promote the growth of existing tumors. You can also do this search in Google Scholar.


<added>The leading anticancer compounds to consider IMO are EGCG, curcumin, quercetin, cruciferous vegetables, melatonin, grapeseed extract, alpha lipoic acid, flaxseed, chlorogenic acid, black cumin, and NSAIDs such as aspirin and Celebrex. This is only a very abbreviated list, but you would need significant buy-in from your friend to do even this much.</added>


Regarding vitamin C: This clears out of the body exceptionally fast. I support the idea as a possible rescue strategy, but I'm more optimistic about liposomal vitamin C, which enables patients to maintain high serum levels indefinitely.


Check out Dr. Robert Nagourney's clinic. He tests the patient's own tumor cells for sensitivity to chemo agents (and combinations of agents). Often these recommendations are different from the standard agent used for a particular category of cancer. Your friend needs a home run and this could be it.
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Welcome to the Forums, Salvia.

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Liposomal vitamin C, as given in the link, contains soy--so it is toxic; I cannot recommend it at all.
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It's way too late to counteract cancer-causing compounds. I haven't done careful research in this area, but if you Google "butylated hydroxytoluene" along with tumor or cancer, you will see a variety of scary studies that suggest that BHT can promote the growth of existing tumors. You can also do this search in Google Scholar.


Regarding vitamin C: This clears out of the body exceptionally fast. I support the idea as a possible rescue strategy, but I'm more optimistic about liposomal vitamin C, which enables patients to maintain high serum levels indefinitely.


Check out Dr. Robert Nagourney's clinic. He tests the patient's own tumor cells for sensitivity to chemo agents (and combinations of agents). Often these recommendations are different from the standard agent used for a particular category of cancer. Your friend needs a home run and this could be it.



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Salvia, You are right about one thing: You have NOT done careful research into BHT. ALL of the NONSENSE you discuss is based on studies done with BHT using truly MASSIVE dosages up to and exceeding 5 grams of BHT per kilogram of body weight. It is IGNORANT people such as you who have kept people fearful of BHT used in the sensible and safe dosages I discuss. Used in sensible dosages BHT is the number ONE proven life extension compound available as shown here in this " Physiological Reviews " report:

Table of antioxidants that extend average lifespan of rodents:

    http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175#T3

Try here for Table # 3

       http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175#T3

If that does not work click onto " Table 3 ". For some reason I am having trouble creating a direct link to table 3.   

Used in sensible dosages BHT has been proven to PREVENT cancer. List of studies regarding that here:

      https://www.lifelinknet.com/siteResources/Products/BHT.asp

If you have NOT done helpful research I do suggest NOT posting about a subject you yourself acknowledge ignorance of.   ...Oscar  

               

        
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Salvia Dali (5/23/2014)
It's way too late to counteract cancer-causing compounds. I haven't done careful research in this area, but if you Google "butylated hydroxytoluene" along with tumor or cancer, you will see a variety of scary studies that suggest that BHT can promote the growth of existing tumors. You can also do this search in Google Scholar.


Regarding vitamin C: This clears out of the body exceptionally fast. I support the idea as a possible rescue strategy, but I'm more optimistic about liposomal vitamin C, which enables patients to maintain high serum levels indefinitely.


Check out Dr. Robert Nagourney's clinic. He tests the patient's own tumor cells for sensitivity to chemo agents (and combinations of agents). Often these recommendations are different from the standard agent used for a particular category of cancer. Your friend needs a home run and this could be it.



You did NOT provide a link to Dr. Robert Nagourney`s website so I will. For 500 dollars his clinic will review your medical records and something ? Not an unreasonable charge for expert advice. Link here:
   http://www.rational-t.com/about/dr-nagourney.aspx

I do resent your uninformed opinion of BHT. But I at least made the effort to provide a link to this doctor you are recommending.   ...Oscar 
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