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new molecule to switch off appetite found - sodium acetate

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 Posted 6/27/2014 3:59:18 AM
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A local health food store is selling sodium acetate now.  Others in the local area are now trying it.  More data points on dosing are beginning to emerge.

Myself, I have now lost about 25 lbs since the first week in May.  My need for sodium acetate has diminished greatly.  In the beginning I was doing 1/3-1/2 TSP (rounded) a couple of times per day when hungry.  Now, it is either none, or just a "pea sized" chunk of crystals since the body has become accustomed to reduced calorie intake.

The 1/3-1/2 rounded TSP dose seemed to be effective for me in the beginning.  However, I have been dieting or trying to for years, and this has reduced my metabolism.  Also take LEF Anti-Adipocyte, cinnamon, Tri-Sugar Shield, Bitter Melon, etc.  Maybe these and/or my reduced metabolism allowed the 1/3-1/2 rounded TSP to be enough to start me off?

Feedback from others, often 20-somethings and 30-somethings, with higher metabolisms have found that the 1/3-1/2 rounded TSP may not be enough, since acetate is rapidly metabolized by the body, especially if they work out too.  They may need as much as 1 rounded TSP, maybe twice a day as a guide.  Even better, dissolving a couple of rounded TSP in a drinking water bottle, and just sipping it when hungry may be a much better solution.  That way you effectively having a time-release method, requiring less total sodium acetate then taking two large 1 TSP doses. Sodium acetate is highly antimicrobial, so nothing is going to grow in that water bottle.

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 Posted 6/30/2014 3:21:59 AM
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Update 6/30/14. Sublingual sodium acetate

I have noticed for a "touch up" small dose, size of a pea or smaller, that when it is dissolved in the mouth and under the tongue seems to go into the blood much faster (a couple of minutes) than when it is swallowed (in liquid).  Somebody will probably come out with sodium acetate "lozenges" now.

For larger doses, bigger than a pea sized chunk, such as seems to be needed by younger people with very active metabolisms, I would still dissolve it in water and drink, or put in a water bottle, and sip as needed.

A minor side effect, not caused by the sodium acetate, but by the rapid loss of fat:

I take a lot of vitamin D3,  two 50,000 IU pills per week (take pill apart and dump the powder into olive oil first).  Plus whatever is in the LEF "mix" 9 per day multivitamin.  Between LEF blood labs and local doctor blood labs, I get my D3 level (25-hydroxy-vitamin D) checked 4 times per year.  I have maintained an optimal level of high 40's or low 50's ng/ml. Since D3 is stored in fat, and at the time of the last lab, there was suddenly 20 lbs less fat, the stored D3 was dumped into the blood, bringing my level to almost 80 ng/ml.  I as long as I am rapidly dropping weight, I have stopped the high dose vitamin D3

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 Posted 7/10/2014 4:36:33 AM
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More feedback.

Myself, since losing a bunch of weight, I am beginning to get more active (also taking coconut oil), that raises my metabolism, and as expected, the "pea" size piece of sodium acetate is no longer enough.  I am now back to 1/2 rounded TSP, twice a day.

Feedback from 30-somethings who are very active (work out), but are slim, and who have huge cravings, are trying sodium acetate, and they need about 1 rounded TSP once or twice a day, and it kills their huge cravings.  Since they are not fat, they will probably not lose any weight, but at least it stops the cravings.

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Another tidbit,  I have found that putting two rounded TSP of sodium acetate into a 20oz water bottle seems to work well for me.  It is just sipped as needed. The taste is no too strong.  Usually lasts for 2-3 days.

By taking sodium acetate (contains no chlorine atom), sodium bicarbonate  (no chlorine), potassium bicarbonate (no chlorine), and cutting out snacks, and greatly reducing food intake, I sometimes got low sodium, and probably low blood chloride as well.  The food not eaten, greatly reduced my common salt (sodium chloride) intake.  I had supplemented with sodium/potassium, but had forgotten about the chloride.  So I added 2-3 "62mg" magnesium chloride pills/day in addition to regular magnesium supplements.  I think the chloride component of this tablet is 456mg.  So a couple of those did it. Potassium chloride should allow more chloride.   This way I keep up my chloride without having to eat more plain salt.

Running on reduced food intake has some nutrition challenges.  One MUST take a good multi vitamin like "LEF mix" 9 per day.

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