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 Posted 4/20/2014 1:58:15 AM
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I'm looking for information on what is the consensus view of this community forum and of LEF regarding possible negative effects of DECT and cellular wireless mobile phone signals on the body. Recently I came across a theory that the main issue is they disrupt Melatonin production.
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I'm looking for information on what is the consensus view of this community forum and of LEF regarding possible negative effects of DECT and cellular wireless mobile phone signals on the body. Recently I came across a theory that the main issue is they disrupt Melatonin production.



Hello, Look these cell phones use radio wavelengths in the same range as micro wave ovens. That is why you feel the phone itself warm up and the tissues located about your ear and cheeks. I use a cell phone now and then. I assume it is not good for me. In fact there is warnings included about all this when you first buy a cell phone. No one bothers to read said warnings.
    I could dig up websites that discuss all this. But then, so can you.   ...Oscar
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Sure, but those warnings only concern its ability to cook you, by friction of vibrating water molecules.  That effect is probably the least of our worries since the body can quickly dissipate heat the same way it would if we applied say a warm compress over a muscle in spasm.
I'm trying to workout the effect of the signals coming from the masts and DECT-phone bases; can they actually disrupt production of Melatonin and block our ability to destroy cancer cells.
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Sure, but those warnings only concern its ability to cook you, by friction of vibrating water molecules.  That effect is probably the least of our worries since the body can quickly dissipate heat the same way it would if we applied say a warm compress over a muscle in spasm.
I'm trying to workout the effect of the signals coming from the masts and DECT-phone bases; can they actually disrupt production of Melatonin and block our ability to destroy cancer cells.


Hello again, I found this website that has a number of different reports from different people concerned about this issue. Said reports include the different devices now being used and not just cell phones. The risks associated with the use of the different devices are discussed in detail by people who have taken a serious look at said risks here:

     http://hbelc.org/about/objectives.html?gclid=CMyenqj49L0CFY3m7AodVyQAzw 

Short extract from one of the many reports at above here:

    "The Obama Administration is promoting wireless internet access in schools. The intent is for each child during the school day to do school work on an iPad and/or laptop with WiFi.  What they are not telling the parents is that the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer has determined that pulsed radio frequency radiation, i.e., the radiation being emitted from wireless technology is possibly cancer causing.  The radiation was given a class 2B rating.  The same classification they have given to DDT, lead, exhaust fumes and chloroform.  No government, nor parents, should allow these toxins to be in the classrooms ..." Center For Safer Wireless To read about the effect of WiFi on sperm, click here; to read about its effect on ovaries, click here.




These devices do present very real health risks.   ...Oscar

POST SCRIPT: One of the supplements available to cope with these risks is BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ]. A proven de-activater of reactive oxygen species such as the hydroxyl radical [ H-O. ]. When water or say hydrogen peroxide is split you get this destructive hydroxyl free radical. When water is split you also get the free radical [ H. ] a hydrogen atom. BHT readily donates hydrogen atoms to such free radicals and H-O. + .H = H-O-H water. And H. + .H = H-H , molecular hydrogen.


  
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Hmmm. . . at this point, I'm convinced BHT could be beneficial for me, and I am ready to give it a try. But I'm not about to give it to my kids, excepting the dose they get from foodstuffs. I recall some research pointing to brain developmental problems with BHT in infant mice.

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I've read of this idea that being electrically grounded to earth will also mitigate some of these risks posed by excess radio waves.  Not sure what to make of that, it seems to make perfect sense from what I understand, though I'd welcome someone who understands this better to enlighten me on the subject.
In the meanwhile, I've installed an isolated ground to my metal bed.  Not sure if its just a placebo effect, but it feels highly soothing to touch it as I go to sleep at night ever since installing the grounding.



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fastingly - did you connect your metal bed to ground or did you isolate it from ground? Your description
wasn't quite clear enough.
A metal bed frame, even ungrounded will act to aborb or block a small amount of lower-frequency waves.
But to really block everything, you'd need to sleep in Faraday cage.
Did you know that you can buy a small box Faraday cage for your cell phone to sleep in - to keep it from communicating
with the cloud at night?

vlc - I wouldn't worry about DECT, unless you are sleeping every night right on a base station.
Also, for cell phones, the likely only effect is heating. It shouldn't be used next to the head for long periods.
Also, it seems likely to me that some big molecule like melatonin might have a vibrational mode at one of the cell phone 
frequencies, and get stimulated into a higher activity level, or even break apart, in the right circumstances.
A bio-physicist might be able to figure it out.
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kench,

Yes, my bed very much now is like a faraday cage, it is grounded, electrons from the earth are free to flow. Smooooth

I meant "isolated ground" in the electrician's sense of the term, meaning I didn't just tie it into the house grounding wires that travel to a grounding rod by the electrical service junction with all the ambient electrical noise there --not to mention the high-amperage electrical stove and dryer and the path outdoors that could act too much like a lighting rod.  What I have is a earthing/ground connection to a copper pipe deep underneath the house (which also happens to be isolated from the rest of the house because everything above-ground from there is electrically inert polyethylene tubing).  I guess a good resistor/ circuit interrupter could serve equally as safe, but it feels more pleasant to think I'm connected to an isolated conductor a half meter underground.
It's one of those instances where if you don't adequately understand all the subtleties, hey, just over-engineer the safety factors.  But I've noticed in hospitals that all critical equipment is attached to isolated grounding and the plug is marked as such, I think isolated ground for such things might be code.
 



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