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 Posted 3/26/2014 2:41:35 AM
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If you're a regular reader of this forum you've no doubt been subjected to the wild claims made about bht, especially regarding curing liver problems.  Do a simple google search for bht side effects.  You may conclude it's not the wonder drug some claim.

Example: http://www.sweetpoison.com/food-additive-to-avoid.html
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Nah, that woman is making wild claims.  Aspartame is moderate dosages is perfectly safe.  So is Phenylalanine.  I take 1200 mg of Phenylalanine for thyroid function and it works wonders.  You would have to take more than double this amount to cause problems.
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 Posted 3/26/2014 5:35:36 AM
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Maybe it's no miracle cure, but the science behind its effectiveness and safety appears overwhelmingly adequate, I'm still investigating it before using it myself, but so far, I'm very impressed, certainly worth considering.

Mega-doses of BHT at multiple times any ordinary dose has been shown to poison the liver to the point of puncturing holes through it in lab animals tested, but that is at unreal doses no human would willingly take. There was a possible cancer risk that has been repeatedly investigated and dismissed, especially since every investigation of carcinogenity demonstrates a reduction of cancer with its use.

There is the MSDS that naturalists bring up about its toxicity when inhaled, but look up the MSDS for sodium chloride(table salt) it's virtually the same.  Because ingesting BHT  in a base of oil is how its proponents assume you will use it. Do not breathe it, problem solved.



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I sympathize somewhat with concerns about aspartame.  There was this one hot summer years ago when I drank nothing but aspartame-sweetened Crystal Light (about a gallon a day).  And I was having some major brain-fog and headaches that ceased right after I stopped drinking the stuff.  It came on again when I tried another variety of aspartame-sweetened beverage.  I think maybe some people are more sensitive than others, and I may just be one of them. 

But no worries in small doses.  I eat aspartame-sweetened ginger with sushi on occasion, and have aspartame-sweetened chewing gum (preserved with BHT) every so often.  But I think I shall refrain from repeating that awful experiment of high-dose aspartame-sweetened beverages, even if I'm wrong about the cause, I'm now psychologically averse even if it can be proven aspartame wasn't the cause of what I experienced.  And therefore, I sympathize with others who have concerns about aspartame.



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To add to what Transpower and fastingly have said in regard to BHT:

1. The website is a promotion for her book written in 1998.
2. The book is principally about artificial sweeteners, but also attacks any man made additive (back then, BHT was thought to be artificial, but has since been proven to be a natural substance, derived from algae.
3. In 1998, it was on the cutting edge to attack BHT, because it was thought to be artificial.
4. Most advocates of BHT recommend dosing under a doctors care for doses in the 2 to 3 gram range. 
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The one thing I can vouch for from personal experience is that BHT is very effective against cold sores. I used to get them all the time when I was a kid, especially after going out in the sun they'd be triggered. Finally, when in my twenties I took BHT, a 250mg capsule everyday for a year after reading Pearson & Shaw. Not only did the cold sore eruptions stop but they haven't returned in several decades so that little bit of information was worth the price I paid for their book. Not too many in the medical community seem to want to talk about it.

BHT may not be the miracle that wins you the lottery or pays your mortgage but it does appear to be an effective antiviral that's worth at least trying if you're suffering from those ugly and painful sores. 
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 Posted 3/28/2014 7:55:36 AM
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If you're a regular reader of this forum you've no doubt been subjected to the wild claims made about bht, especially regarding curing liver problems.  Do a simple google search for bht side effects.  You may conclude it's not the wonder drug some claim.

Example: http://www.sweetpoison.com/food-additive-to-avoid.html



There is NO mention of BHT at the link you provided. One of Dr. Janet Hull`s links is: Methanol a Trojan horse. Well methanol is a VERY well known toxin. If she is a doctor as she claims to be: Why does she discuss methanol as if it is some big surprise as a toxin ? I thought that was common knowledge. Methanol is well known as a toxin and was often a component of BOOTLEGGAR`S cheap whiskey products. Causes blindness and other such things. And again, NO mention of BHT.
    The purpose of your posting is clear enough: to discredit BHT. The link you provided does no such thing.   ...Oscar
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 Posted 3/28/2014 9:00:16 AM
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WHO [ World Health Organization ] toxicology report evaluation about BHT. Link to entire report here:  http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v35je02.htm

NOEL is [ No Observed Effects Level ].

ADI is [ Acceptable  Daily Intake ]

These definitions are provided at the very end of this lengthy report AFTER the long list of references.

 
    4.  EVALUATION

         In view of the probable involvement of hepatic enzyme induction
    in the development of the hepatocellular damage associated with
    repeated doses of BHT, the Committee concluded that, in this case,
    enzyme induction was the most sensitive index of effects on the liver.
    A well-defined threshold was demonstrated at 100 mg/kg bw/day in the
    long-term study reviewed for the first time at this meeting, giving a
    NOEL of 25 mg/kg bw/day. Effects observed in the reproduction segments
    of the  in utero/lifetime exposure studies were also taken into
    account in the derivation of this NOEL. The Committee used a safety
    factor of 100 to allocate an ADI of 0-0.3 mg/kg bw for BHT.  

I hope this works. So the ADI is 1/100th of the NOEL as stated here.   ...Oscar


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[quote]cletuscobb (3/26/2014)
If you're a regular reader of this forum you've no doubt been subjected to the wild claims made about bht, especially regarding curing liver problems.  Do a simple google search for bht side effects.  You may conclude it's not the wonder drug some claim.

Example: http://www.sweetpoison.com/food-additive-to-avoid.html



There is NO mention of BHT at the link you provided. One of Dr. Janet Hull`s links is: Methanol a Trojan horse. Well methanol is a VERY well known toxin. If she is a doctor as she claims to be: Why does she discuss methanol as if it is some big surprise as a toxin ? I thought that was common knowledge. Methanol is well known as a toxin and was often a component of BOOTLEGGAR`S cheap whiskey products. Causes blindness and other such things. And again, NO mention of BHT.
    The purpose of your posting is clear enough: to discredit BHT. The link you provided does no such thing.   ...Oscar[/quote

The link I provided earlier is inaccurate.  I meant to type - http://www.sweetpoison.com/food-additives-to-avoid.html

Interesting, Oscar.  The purpose of your bht postings are clear enough as well.  But you are to be believed, of course.  And not questioned. 
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Cletuscobb, You are free to question me all you want. But, be prepared for some informed answers backed up by the very substantial body of evidence available regarding BHT. Not based on my opinions, but on the very many studies that have been done with BHT. Here is an article published by PHYSIOLOGICAL REVIEWS for example:

      http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175

This article discusses the use of so called antioxidants as average lifespan extenders. And table 3. of that article lists BHT as the number one average lifespan extender here:

      http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175#T3

So, feel free to ask me questions and expect informed answers about BHT. NOT my opinions.   ...Oscar  

          
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