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Hello. From what parts of the world are the fish comprising the concentrated fish oil Super Omega 3 caught? Thanks.

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Hello. From what parts of the world are the fish comprising the concentrated fish oil Super Omega 3 caught? Thanks.


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This is an important question that deserves an answer. Also, what exactly is FISH OIL ? There are thousands of species of fish, so which fish are we talking about ? Further more, fish oils get rancid and fast. What is done to ensure this fish oil stuff is not rancid. For all those reasons I do NOT take " Fish Oil " whatever that is. Fish oil is an extremely vague description of what is inside these capsules.   ...Oscar
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The anchovy and mackerel are wild caught in the deep ocean waters (salt water) off the coast of Peru.



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DDye (2/3/2014)

The anchovy and mackerel are wild caught in the deep ocean waters (salt water) off the coast of Peru.



Great, that does answer the original poster`s question. But my additional question about what is done to preserve these fish oils is at least as important. Fish oils are especially prone to rancidity as discussed here:

    http://blog.omega3innovations.com/blog/bid/215649/Is-Your-Fish-Oil-Rancid

One thing you can do is take a pin such as a safety pin and poke a hole in these capsules and squeeze the contents out. If it smells rotten it is rotten or rancid and not only will not help you but will harm you. Rancid oils of any type are harmful to you. You would never eat a rotten piece of fish. Rotten fish oil is about the same in many ways and may even contain harmful bacteria. Sadly, the health food fanatics bad rapped the one compound, BHT, that was and still is the very best of all food oil preservatives. Tiny amounts of BHT can and does effectively prevent rancidity. HIPPY SCIENCE still rules in the health food world.   ...Oscar  


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Life Extension's description of the product http://www.lef.org/vitamins-supplements/item01484/Super-Omega-3-EPA-DHA-with-Sesame-Lignans-Olive-Fruit-Extract.html states:

"Sesame lignans help guard against lipid peroxidation, thereby extending the stability of DHA in the body. These lignans also direct fatty acids toward pathways which can help with inflammatory reactions. Super Omega-3 provides standardized sesame lignans to enhance the overall benefits of the improved EPA/DHA fish oil.

To emulate a Mediterranean diet, Super Omega-3 provides a standardized olive fruit extract to deliver the polyphenol hydroxytyrosol, a powerful antioxidant that protects normal LDL from oxidation and counters free radicals.124-128 Research shows that a combination of olive oil and fish oil supplements helps with inflammation better than a placebo or fish oil alone.129 Therefore, four softgels of Super Omega-3 provide the equivalent polyphenol content of 4 to 6 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil."

The product also contains tocopherols and rosemary extract.


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Thanks DDye for that concise answer.

It was as much of curiousity as well as small concern about any seafood, plant or animal, sourced just east of Japan, let alone much of the north Pacific in recent times. We all know why.

It must be Chilean jack mackerel they are using, then. Apparently, it's one of the world's most important edible fish. Excellent source of omegas so I regularly eat mackerel. Where I live, they are sourced mostly from the north Atlantic. Although try to, I find it hard to eat anchovies but am glad they are in the Super Omega formula. What's nice about anchovies is that they are lower in the food chain and are herbivores meaning less bio-accumulation.

But insofar as radiation concerns, I don't think it's terribly relevant to fish oil in any case as apparently the main culprits such as cesium-137 collects in the fish's bone and muscle, not fatty tissue. It would collect in human bone and muscle as well, causing greater risk for certain types of diseases such as leukemia (blood cell cancer). Blood cells are formed in bone marrow.

As far oscar2u's questions, I would add the following to what DDye said.
- Natural antioxidants such as tocopherols, rosemary and lignans, in LEF's Super Omega 3 would help preserve the oil. I'd rather have them than BHT. Also, the vacuum of the capsule itself would help preservation immensely.
- The expiry date is there for a reason. Among reputable manufacturers, it's an underestimate so you're assured freshness.
- What exactly is fish oil you ask? Well, for that matter, what is olive oil, corn oil, etc. (restricting the scope to just edible oils). It's pretty much the same answer. The same kinds of questions you're asking about fish oil applies to them. One thing to point out is that these common food oils are not encapsulated (they come in bottles) and therefore would go rancid far quicker. You sort of get an idea how long then encapsulation extends life of the oil.
- This webpage provides a nicely concise explanation of what fish oil is extracted: How is Fish Oil made? http://michaelreid.typepad.com/michaelreid/2007/09/how-is-fish-oil.html
- These YouTube videos show the process in motion. Although their intent seems to be marketing, you can extract some technical information out of them: Supercritical CO2 Extraction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulAEfpO67jM , How a First-Rate Fish Oil Supplement is Made (encapsulation) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSklbnn2nus , Fish Oil Production http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWyu0FUXwXM
- Molecular distillation that LEF's supplier uses (not well explained in those videos above) would effectively make their fish oil far cleaner than even in pre-industrial times.
- Fish oil is one animal fat that is good for you. Myself, cholesterol values improved significantly as but one easily measurable effect.

I also try to get plant based oils from food including flax and chia which have pre-cursors for the body to synthesize the types of omega 3 fatty acids it needs albeit at low efficiency. That's the DHA and EPA. There is little question that pre-formed omega 3s such as found in fish oil does a lot of good. The only question then becomes what is the quality of that fish oil and it seems LEF is doing a pretty good job in that aspect.
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Dear Leer, BHT is every bit as natural as those other compounds and substances you discussed. It [ BHT ] was proven to occur naturally in certain phytoplankton back in 2008. And has been showing up in a growing number of other plants also. Though the BHT available is produced artificially, it is exactly the same as plant produced BHT. The molecular structure is EXACTLY the same. I will go further than that by saying that the artificially produced BHT is of far higher degree of purity than the plant extract processes can produce. And, as this PHYSIOLOGICAL REVIEWS article clearly shows, BHT is the best antioxidant, free radical, and reactive oxygen species scavenger available. See comparison table here:


     http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175/T3.expansion.htmlhttp:

That table shows BHT extends the average lifespan of mice by 22% to 31%.

Tocopherol on the other hand shows a 0% to a -31% decrease in average lifespan. This is a " Physiological Reviews " report that does cite OVER 300 studies.[ 384 studies ]    ...Oscar

POST SCRIPT: The full text of this extensive publication is available for free here:

      http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175.full  
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leer (2/3/2014)

Thanks DDye for that concise answer.

It was as much of curiousity as well as small concern about any seafood, plant or animal, sourced just east of Japan, let alone much of the north Pacific in recent times. We all know why.

It must be Chilean jack mackerel they are using, then. Apparently, it's one of the world's most important edible fish. Excellent source of omegas so I regularly eat mackerel. Where I live, they are sourced mostly from the north Atlantic. Although try to, I find it hard to eat anchovies but am glad they are in the Super Omega formula. What's nice about anchovies is that they are lower in the food chain and are herbivores meaning less bio-accumulation.

But insofar as radiation concerns, I don't think it's terribly relevant to fish oil in any case as apparently the main culprits such as cesium-137 collects in the fish's bone and muscle, not fatty tissue. It would collect in human bone and muscle as well, causing greater risk for certain types of diseases such as leukemia (blood cell cancer). Blood cells are formed in bone marrow.

As far oscar2u's questions, I would add the following to what DDye said.
- Natural antioxidants such as tocopherols, rosemary and lignans, in LEF's Super Omega 3 would help preserve the oil. I'd rather have them than BHT. Also, the vacuum of the capsule itself would help preservation immensely.
- The expiry date is there for a reason. Among reputable manufacturers, it's an underestimate so you're assured freshness.
- What exactly is fish oil you ask? Well, for that matter, what is olive oil, corn oil, etc. (restricting the scope to just edible oils). It's pretty much the same answer. The same kinds of questions you're asking about fish oil applies to them. One thing to point out is that these common food oils are not encapsulated (they come in bottles) and therefore would go rancid far quicker. You sort of get an idea how long then encapsulation extends life of the oil.
- This webpage provides a nicely concise explanation of what fish oil is extracted: How is Fish Oil made? http://michaelreid.typepad.com/michaelreid/2007/09/how-is-fish-oil.html
- These YouTube videos show the process in motion. Although their intent seems to be marketing, you can extract some technical information out of them: Supercritical CO2 Extraction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulAEfpO67jM , How a First-Rate Fish Oil Supplement is Made (encapsulation) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSklbnn2nus , Fish Oil Production http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWyu0FUXwXM
- Molecular distillation that LEF's supplier uses (not well explained in those videos above) would effectively make their fish oil far cleaner than even in pre-industrial times.
- Fish oil is one animal fat that is good for you. Myself, cholesterol values improved significantly as but one easily measurable effect.

I also try to get plant based oils from food including flax and chia which have pre-cursors for the body to synthesize the types of omega 3 fatty acids it needs albeit at low efficiency. That's the DHA and EPA. There is little question that pre-formed omega 3s such as found in fish oil does a lot of good. The only question then becomes what is the quality of that fish oil and it seems LEF is doing a pretty good job in that aspect.



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Mr. or Mz. Leer you are pushing my buttons so to speak. There is a very big difference between olive oil and so called fish oil. There probably is some very small variation in a particular olive plants oil. But high standards are met if you buy the EXTRA VIRGIN FIRST COLD PRESS type. This olive oil smells and tastes good. And you bet I add a capsule of BHT to every bottle as soon as I open it. You open up the capsule of BHT and pour the contents into the bottle of olive oil. And olive oil tastes good. Tell the truth: would you or do you use " fish oil " as a salad dressing ? Or would you slurp down a tablespoon or even a teaspoon of fish oil ? You can also take a piece of bread and sop up olive oil with it. It has a very good flavour all by itself and was a staple of the ancient Roman`s diet. I never heard of anyone doing that with fish oil.  ...Oscar
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LEER has a right to his opinion, which he expressed very nicely in one short sentence.  If someone prefers not to use BHT, that is certainly their right.
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