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Testosterone Replacement Therapy For Men: my experience

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 Posted 8/26/2013 10:38:51 AM
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Estradiol potentiates libido in the male brain more than any other hormone.  Of course, this may not have much effect if androgens and gh are deficient. 
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 Posted 9/17/2013 6:19:09 PM
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Same issue with DHT since T  → DHT via the enzyme  5ARI (5-alpha reductase inhibitor), you should consider getting a baseline DHT level (blood) and rechecking DHT once you have good  testosterone levels.  If DHT is getting up there, then you may wish to discuss with your MD using Avodart or Proscar.  I prefer Avodart since more potent an inhibitor of 5AR.
I have been on HRT for a year, and though my Total and Free Testosterone are optimized, my DHT is through the roof.  That said, I would never take Avodart or Proscar.

Do a google of "post finasteride syndrome" and you will see a small but very real segment of the population that is suffering horribly due to such drugs, often used to fight hair loss.
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 Posted 12/2/2013 9:27:43 PM
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First time post....but I find these forums very helpful, thank you.

I am just beginning the process of evaluating my HRT needs along with a doctor that I have chosen that seems very knowledgeable.  He says he rarely will ever prescribe gels or patches for testosterone mainly because when the topical gel crosses the skin layer that it has a high conversion to DHT which is bad for increased prostate cancer risk as well as baldness.  He claims that injectable T does not have this problem...or at least at a very reduced rate.  Do others concur with this?
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 Posted 12/3/2013 4:02:05 AM
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Welcome to the Forums, ximoosea.

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Hi all. Im new here but have been on HRT for 7 years now.  Im 55 and am a solid believer.  my first experience was with implants.  I got way too much and didnt like it.  I then read all I could about it. My reading has made me conclude that ester injections are the way to go.  Bioidentical ones have a very short half life.  Patches are too low a dose and have to soak thru a fat layer, and fat converts testerone to estrogen.  Ive been giving myself IM 100 mg injections every week.  This is considered a very moderate dose which leaves my t level at  695 and a free t level of .98.  right in the windows.

About 3 months ago i had a PSA test.  No one mentioned the results so about 1 month later I just happened to ask.  The doctor looked and asked "am I reading this right?"  I looked and he was.  My PSA was 40.  After a few weeks of tests it was determined to be caused by an infection.  Ive been off T  for three months now as PSA has a half life of 3 weeks and they want to be positive there is no cancer.  I recall all the stiffness (not the good kind) and joint pain I originally had when I began.  I count the days until my next injections.
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 Posted 2/11/2014 3:12:55 PM
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First time post....but I find these forums very helpful, thank you.

I am just beginning the process of evaluating my HRT needs along with a doctor that I have chosen that seems very knowledgeable.  He says he rarely will ever prescribe gels or patches for testosterone mainly because when the topical gel crosses the skin layer that it has a high conversion to DHT which is bad for increased prostate cancer risk as well as baldness.  He claims that injectable T does not have this problem...or at least at a very reduced rate.  Do others concur with this?
Yes, that is the rule of thumb.  Injections usually cause less of a DHT spike. (I do injections, and unfortunately I am one of the exceptions to the rule.)

If I were you I would look for HRT advice at other sites, too.  I am not sure if I am allowed to give links, but there are some very active HRT forums out there.
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 Posted 3/6/2014 12:14:35 PM
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Has anyone ever been put on Novarel (chorionic gonadotropin) to treat low T. My initial visit to a urologist following my family doctor discovering my low T (137) wants to put me on this. He is waiting for a blood panel from the lab on me and my return visit is 3/17. I am not finding anyone who has experienced this course of treatment.
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 Posted 3/19/2014 11:03:22 AM
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I've read protocols that suggest testing for luteinizing hormone along with the initial hormone levels, but in practice most doctors don't do this or do not believe that over a certain age that is the problem. However if you did have this test and it shows it to be low, using HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) as an analog for luteinizing hormone to stimulate your endogenous production of testosterone would probably be a more natural treatment, especially since HCG is recommended in most cases anyway either initially or at some point to prevent testicular atrophy. Starting with HCG only to see if it works by itself seems to me be a good idea.
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 Posted 3/19/2014 11:17:50 AM
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DHT cannot be converted to estrogen. There is evidence that estrogen, specifically estradiol, is more connected to prostate enlargement and cancer than DHT. A procedure developed in Israel involving shortening and opening the vessel by which testosterone exits the testes to the rest of the body was shown to reduce prostate problems, including cancer. Apparently it is the blockage of this vessel that contributes to the prostate problems (taller men, having a longer vessel, are more prone to these problems). I wonder if the DHT produced in the body from exogenous testosterone would have the same effect on the prostate, not having to pass through the vessel from the testes to the body.
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 Posted 3/19/2014 11:24:52 AM
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Welcome to the forums, Longtime member.

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