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main stream press linking green tea supplements to liver disease

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 Posted 12/22/2013 2:53:23 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/us/spike-in-harm-to-liver-is-tied-to-dietary-aids.html?_r=0

I have been taking 1 per day of the LEF mega green tea supplement for years, and my liver is just fine.

Maybe more fodder of main stream pharma against the supplement industry?

Let Bill Faloon have at them!




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 Posted 12/22/2013 6:27:50 AM
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This is the second article I've seen on Green Tea Extract causing problems...  The other was an energy drink with EGCG.  I'm sure the patients in both cases were megadosing the product, but I'm afraid I feel it may be a good call there are problems with dosage levels in a lot of supplements.  

Another example of how mega-dosing madness may be causing big trouble for the supplement industry.  I'm a big fan of green tea, but most of the GTE supplements I've seen do contain doses that are quite large.  

I hope LifeExtension will lead the way on seeing to it that supplement manufacturers aren't giving us "too much of a good thing".  Perhaps "black box" warnings should be implemented for supplements that are dangerous when megadosed, like EGCG, GTE, Iron & Vitamin-A.
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 Posted 12/31/2013 5:08:35 AM
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A lot of these "Green Tea" fat burners contain a lot more than Green Tea.  I'm not so sure that

it's the Green Tea causing the problems.


Only humans deliberately take another species' milk,
oxidize it and drink it. It goes against natural law.
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 Posted 12/31/2013 5:33:25 AM
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Life Extension recommends that one consume Mega Green Tea or other green tea supplements we carry in the doses recommended on the label. 

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I drink 0-calorie Honest Green Tea throughout the day.  I add lemon juice to it and shake the bottle; the lemon juice makes the taste much better.
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 Posted 12/31/2013 9:01:34 PM
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Life Extension recommends that one consume Mega Green Tea or other green tea supplements we carry in the doses recommended on the label. 


I find the "Mega" aspect of LEF's Mega Green Tea a bit distressing.  It appears each capsule contains 326.25mg of EGCG, which apparently should put this dosage well under the toxic level.  The safety margin of most supplements however, is such that "mega-dosing" (taking more than the label recommendations) is usually harmless, and many supplement users frequently do take more than the standard dose of many supplements.  

The actual toxic level of EGCG is a bit hard to pin down, but it appears to me susceptible sub-populations might get themselves in trouble simply by taking 2 or 3 of these capsules per day for any length of time, and a situation like this should set off more than a few alarm bells in a reputable company like LEF.  

I for one would hate to see LifeExtension splashed across medical news headlines with even one customer who sustained liver damage from modest over-use of this supplement, and this seems to me to be a very plausible possibility.  

Evidence is mounting an increasing number of people are getting in very serious trouble with green tea extracts, and anti-supplement zealots are having a field-day and howling for new regulations if not outright bans.  I'm sure LEF has a remarkable safety record, and I fear perhaps this may have lulled some into a false sense of security.  

The fat is already in the fire regarding GTE/EGCG supplements, and any further overdoses now would certainly result in a fine mess for the company distributing this supplement anywhere near toxic levels with moderate overuse.  

Rule #1 in medicine is: First, Do NO Harm...  A word to the wise should be sufficient!  I hope you will forward my post to some of the more cautious higher-ups at LEF for them to ponder.  
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Shouldn't the article include at least a hint of how much the kid was ingesting if it's purpose was to inform/warn the public? No details, nadda. The article is a hit-piece and has no useful information. Someone should contact Christopher and get the details...the reporter had other goals with this article.
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synthesia, your comments have been forwarded to Life Extension's Product Development department.

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Thanks D Dye...  Sorry if I came across as overly harsh, but I've noticed anti-supplement propaganda reaching an ominous level over the past year and liver failure has explosive potential for bad press.  

Take a look at Bill Sardi's post here: http://knowledgeofhealth.com/news-media-beats-drum-against-dietary-supplements-again/

There are people in high places leveling big guns on the supplement industry and I don't want them to get any more ammunition for those guns!  
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Here's an interesting paper on the good, bad, and ugly regarding green tea and green tea extracts.  
http://peer.ccsd.cnrs.fr/docs/00/53/49/39/PDF/PEER_stage2_10.1007%252Fs00228-008-0610-7.pdf

Hepatotoxicity from green tea: a review of the literature and two unpublished cases

It's a long, but informative read.  It looks like while green tea and its extracts may be a good thing in low doses, the potential for adverse events with "mega" doses is quite high, particularly in the elderly as the two case histories describe.  

It appears the two case histories were taking GTE prescribed by doctors at the recommended dosage when they got in trouble.  BIG trouble!  
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