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main stream press linking green tea supplements to liver disease

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 Posted 1/1/2014 11:36:23 PM
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I concur with Synesthesia: LEF should have a look and I look forward to a reply. I hate the "mega" and "ultra" and other marketing stuff, these things should be defined. In this case the marketing can even be counterproductive. I am also using LEF's GTE at 1/2 dose and I have a keen interest!
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I'm a bit suspicious of this.  I've seen the flavonoid content of a serving of about half a cup of real green tea and it's around 50mg.   Someone that drinked a large glass with every meal or throughout the day, would have over a gram of flavonoids running through their body(with about half of that gram being egcg).

aren't there people in eastern cultures that drink lots of green tea throughout the day?  People who've generally made it to centenarian status?
Traditionally, Okinawans spent all day drinking unsweetened green tea--dipping their cups in a big bucket of home brew while they fished or worked in the fields. The unique Okinawan tea blend--called Sanpin--appears to be even more potent than regular green tea, with antoxidants shown to protect against everything from cancer and heart disease to the aging effects of UV rays. A recent study shows that one ingredient actually burns calories, while another induces a feeling of calm and well-being. Bottoms up!http://www.faboverfifty.com/intheknow/our-health/diet-secrets-centenarians


What I'm taking is to avoid Fat Burners mixed with other ingredients and drink or supplement with the real stuff.
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I'm always amazed at articles like this one by the NYT that declare such absurd statements like FDA-regulated products are safe, while the "unregulated supplement industry" is some crazy wild, "wild west". . . hmm, 2 people in a year dying from taking green tea extracts haphazardly and not in accordance with directions, while how many thousands of people die from taking FDA-approved drugs like acetaminophen every year even according to directions.

And this myth of "unregulated" supplements seems to be quite strong, I notice on social media when hit-pieces like one from Salon.com yesterday about nobody needs to take vitamins, the comments that follow get absurd really fast, "unregulated" is a common word that people repeat unthinkingly, and there seems to be some idea that most supplement makers are able to run legal operations from their dirty kitchen counter-top.

I know first-hand what a myth it is about this unregulated market because I once researched what it would take just to open a facility to re-package reputable name-brand bottles of supplements (like LEF) into specialty convenience packs with my own label, and discovered that I would have to spend at least $100,000 just trying to to begin to comply with a seriously long list of regulations from the very first day of business.



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ghg2 (12/22/2013)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/us/spike-in-harm-to-liver-is-tied-to-dietary-aids.html?_r=0

I have been taking 1 per day of the LEF mega green tea supplement for years, and my liver is just fine.

Maybe more fodder of main stream pharma against the supplement industry?

Let Bill Faloon have at them!




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Have at them about what ? That 17 year old almost lost his liver from taking " concentrated green tea extracts ". I read the article and see NO reason Falloon or anyone else should " have at them ". 

Extract from NYT story at above link:

           

But one product that patients used frequently was green tea extract, which contains catechins, a group of potent antioxidants that reputedly increase metabolism. The extracts are often marketed as fat burners, and catechins are often added to weight-loss products and energy boosters. Most green tea pills are highly concentrated, containing many times the amount of catechins found in a single cup of green tea, Dr. Bonkovsky said. In high doses, catechins can be toxic to the liver, he said, and a small percentage of people appear to be particularly susceptible.

But liver injuries attributed to herbal supplements are more likely to be severe and to result in liver transplants, Dr. Navarro said. And unlike prescription drugs, which are tightly regulated, dietary supplements typically carry no information about side effects. Consumers assume they have been studied and tested, Dr. Bonkovsky said. But that is rarely the case. “There is this belief that if something is natural, then it must be safe and it must be good,” he said.

  
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