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 Posted 11/20/2013 4:16:45 PM
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Hi there,

I am currently taking Thorne supplements but wishing to change to LE. I am also wanting to start a high-dose Vit D regimen but I keep seeing varying advice on the D3 to K2 ratios. I am also wanting advice about how much Calcium and Magnesium to take, as I know I'm deficient but my ND advices against calcium supplementation.

Any advice would be so greatly appreciated.

I have been chronically ill since age 15 and I live in upper Canada, so I get virtually no sunshine.

Thanks, HKZ
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 Posted 11/20/2013 4:53:57 PM
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Welcome to the Forums, HKZ.

Life Extension recommends that you have your vitamin D tested in order to determine how much you need to supplement with.

If your doctor has advised against your supplementing with calcium, our advice is to abide by your health care provider's recommendatin.

Magnesium is generally supplemented in doses ranging from 400-800 mg, to be consumed in divided doses.

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Thanks for the advice Smile

My Dr. sucks, though. She basically has managed my health into the pits. She only doesn't recommend calcium supplements because she is afraid of calcification and doesn't know much about K2. I am calcium deficient and cannot have dairy.

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 Posted 11/21/2013 3:57:48 AM
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Can you find another doctor?
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I've been taking 6000 IU vitamin D per day for years to keep my blood levels up. It's helped me a lot: get colds and flu much less often. Lots of people need a high dose to keep blood their levels up. If you're overweight, you may need twice this, because it gets stored in fat.

Perhaps I have to take a lot because my stomach acid is low. I haven't tested this yet.

Cal/mag ratios are tricky. Over the last 20 years, I've repeatedly boosted magnesium to tweak the ratio. Most of what sources said about the ratios were wrong for me. Here's what I do:
. Keep calcium at 600 mg/day (with more the ratio becomes difficult to manage)
. Take more magnesium than calcium
. Be aware of calcium fortified foods (they rarely have magnesium), especially soy/almond/coconut milk
  (I keep a bottle of magnesium orotate next to the fridge and take 40 mg if I drink a lot of these.)
. Try magnesium threonate for a few months and see if it helps you (less likely to cause diarrhea)

A history of constipation, poor sleep, anxiety and/or tight muscles suggests you need more magnesium.

American doctors keep telling people worried about their bones to take 1200 mg calcium, but I think we've pushed this too far. Vit K and D are critical, but people in other countries have healthy bones with lower calcium intakes.

Bone density tests and drugs are also in question. It's unclear that bone density correlates with age-related fractures. Drugs that lay down fake-bone increase density, but we don't know if that helps prevent breaks.

My naturopath recommends a urinary bone loss test (aka bone resorption analysis), as more useful than bone density tests.

Good luck,
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If you eat lots of vegetables, 500 mg's extra of calcium tablet is probably enough.  5000 iu's/day of

vitamin D should also be good.  Doctor's often prescribe 50,000 iu's/week for folks that are low.


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oxidize it and drink it. It goes against natural law.
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